Re: A Long Hot Summer begins (a dumpster fire chat)
Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 1:37pm
Sometime around 2008ish (when that Negro got all uppity), conservatism (broadly conceived) became overwhelmingly dominated by kneejerk anti-liberalism/anti-leftism (but those are the same thing, amirite?). It doesn't matter how traditional or free market the stance a person might take*, if they are perceived as liberal or left, the position will be declared to be "far left" and an existential threat to god, family, and country. It's the province of the stupid, gut-reaction crowd, fed entirely on contempt and grievance. The principled, intellectual conservatives have themselves to blame, regularly stirring the pot for short-term gain, and now the morons have swamped them.Silent Majority wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 1:23pmConservative arseholery used to have a particular national character as late as 2015 but I'd say online had smoothed those distinctions away. Your traditional grey tory voter has been replaced by someone who loathes and wants to own snowflakes.revbob wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 1:10pmThat's so damn disappointing.Silent Majority wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 10:32amThe UK and Australian right are hoovering up any shit the modern American right are throwing out in the ether now.
ain't no white boy from New England kept his mouth shut for 75 days.
Which raises the question of what the old coot thinks Black Lives Matter means. Five'll get you ten that it isn't what BLM supporters think it means.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 1:00pmOn another note, I had an old coot I used to work with attack me on Facebook for taking my son to a protest (I've actually taken him to 3). He accused me of several things: putting my son in danger, using my son as a photo op, and so on. He claims my son can't possibly know what "Black Lives Matter" means.
He asked several times why my son didn't have an "All Lives Matter" sign and at one point even asked where the "White Lives Matter" sign was.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 1:20pmWhich raises the question of what the old coot thinks Black Lives Matter means. Five'll get you ten that it isn't what BLM supporters think it means.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 1:00pmOn another note, I had an old coot I used to work with attack me on Facebook for taking my son to a protest (I've actually taken him to 3). He accused me of several things: putting my son in danger, using my son as a photo op, and so on. He claims my son can't possibly know what "Black Lives Matter" means.
Maybe the point was to draw out the racists, but the slogan would have eliminated that racist talking point if it were called Black Lives Also Matter. Kind of like how calling it global warming meant any cold day in January could be used against those issuing warnings.
Assuming these people are sincere, it suggests a remarkable interpretation that there's a missing word, and that is "only." That black activists don't want police to stop victimizing them, but to dominate everyone else. Perhaps suggestive further that at heart they think only white lives really matter.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 2:59pmHe asked several times why my son didn't have an "All Lives Matter" sign and at one point even asked where the "White Lives Matter" sign was.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 1:20pmWhich raises the question of what the old coot thinks Black Lives Matter means. Five'll get you ten that it isn't what BLM supporters think it means.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 1:00pmOn another note, I had an old coot I used to work with attack me on Facebook for taking my son to a protest (I've actually taken him to 3). He accused me of several things: putting my son in danger, using my son as a photo op, and so on. He claims my son can't possibly know what "Black Lives Matter" means.
Maybe the point was to draw out the racists, but the slogan would have eliminated that racist talking point if it were called Black Lives Also Matter. Kind of like how calling it global warming meant any cold day in January could be used against those issuing warnings.
I feel like it's a way for them to push back. I believe many white people struggle with their white guilt. To suggest that Black Lives Matter to them underscores the issue of systemic racism that has benefited all white people (whether they want to admit it or not). I think the All Lives Matter response might be a way for them to assuage some of their guilt. It's the whole "I don't see color" response. They hide behind this claim that all lives matter for them because they don't want to admit that they 1) don't care about black lives or 2) feel guilt about their whiteness.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 3:19pmAssuming these people are sincere, it suggests a remarkable interpretation that there's a missing word, and that is "only." That black activists don't want police to stop victimizing them, but to dominate everyone else. Perhaps suggestive further that at heart they think only white lives really matter.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 2:59pmHe asked several times why my son didn't have an "All Lives Matter" sign and at one point even asked where the "White Lives Matter" sign was.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 1:20pmWhich raises the question of what the old coot thinks Black Lives Matter means. Five'll get you ten that it isn't what BLM supporters think it means.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 1:00pmOn another note, I had an old coot I used to work with attack me on Facebook for taking my son to a protest (I've actually taken him to 3). He accused me of several things: putting my son in danger, using my son as a photo op, and so on. He claims my son can't possibly know what "Black Lives Matter" means.
Maybe the point was to draw out the racists, but the slogan would have eliminated that racist talking point if it were called Black Lives Also Matter. Kind of like how calling it global warming meant any cold day in January could be used against those issuing warnings.
It's mildly stunning to still see people post horrible shit under their own names and not think there might be consequences. Stick to Stormfront, assholes.WestwayKid wrote: ↑08 Jun 2020, 6:09pmDid I mention the guy I used to work with?
He commented that police should be using lead bullets on protesters during a Facebook live stream last week.
Social media watchdogs grabbed a screenshot of his comment. They found out where he worked from his Facebook profile. They contacted my company. My company sent him packing the same day.
It's lovely seeing bad things happen to racist fools.