Re: Libertarian Thread of Doom
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 12:09pm
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I used to call them republicans who want weed legalized.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 11:38amHave we done this one before? I think we have at some point.
I'm curious whether a line can be drawn between these faux renegade billionaires who draw from those disaffected from conventional political expression and Ross Perot. It's striking to me how people of some degree of leftist bent can line up behind billionaires just because "oooo, I hate that crooked system, too!" So, yeah, good, glad you realize the system is rigged against you. Why are you so eager to claim the "useful idiot" nametag as the next step?Flex wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 1:07pmWonderfully scathing profile of David Sacks, conservatarian mutant who's gained a great degree of prominence on both the Muskian/Trumpist right and the Alt-/Post-Left, an almost perfect simulacrum of paleoliberatian isolationism and anti-woke ethnonationalist grievance culture perfectly calibrated to appeal to the Extremely Online who like to use his services: https://newrepublic.com/article/168125/ ... eter-thiel
Charitably, I suppose, it can be a fine line between alliances of convenience and co-option (and to be fair, it works in the other direction too - leftists working with liberals certainly provokes some sometimes-accurate scathing critiques of useful idiocy) but my unsophisticated sense is that for a lot of people "opposing (now called 'owning') the libs" takes a significantly higher priority that advocating for change rooted in national and international solidarity, which would make any sort of alliance with a vampire like Sacks seem counterproductive.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 1:26pmI'm curious whether a line can be drawn between these faux renegade billionaires who draw from those disaffected from conventional political expression and Ross Perot. It's striking to me how people of some degree of leftist bent can line up behind billionaires just because "oooo, I hate that crooked system, too!" So, yeah, good, glad you realize the system is rigged against you. Why are you so eager to claim the "useful idiot" nametag as the next step?
It's such an odd thing for me to wrap my head around, where we're almost in a post-politics environment now. Debate about values and policies are supplanted by snark, where the goal is therapeutic—I feel good, you feel bad. It's entirely passive behaviour. And it serves to validate authoritarians who say liberal democracy doesn't work.Flex wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 2:02pmCharitably, I suppose, it can be a fine line between alliances of convenience and co-option (and to be fair, it works in the other direction too - leftists working with liberals certainly provokes some sometimes-accurate scathing critiques of useful idiocy) but my unsophisticated sense is that for a lot of people "opposing (now called 'owning') the libs" takes a significantly higher priority that advocating for change rooted in national and international solidarity, which would make any sort of alliance with a vampire like Sacks seem counterproductive.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 1:26pmI'm curious whether a line can be drawn between these faux renegade billionaires who draw from those disaffected from conventional political expression and Ross Perot. It's striking to me how people of some degree of leftist bent can line up behind billionaires just because "oooo, I hate that crooked system, too!" So, yeah, good, glad you realize the system is rigged against you. Why are you so eager to claim the "useful idiot" nametag as the next step?
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022, 12:54pmhttps://boingboing.net/2022/11/15/liber ... itism.html
Because of course they do.
I see this flag probably once a year or so and it delights me every time.