If you really wanna go - alive or dead my friend

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It's begun. Ukraine getting the imperial conquest treatment from a kleptocratic capitalist authoritatian with delusions of resurgent empire.

We have good friends with family in Ukraine. Thoughts are with them for their safety.
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My thoughts are with the people of Ukraine.
I live next door to Russia. This is very unsettling and a turning point in Europe.

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I can't speak as eloquently as Flex.

All I got is Marky speech so... FUCK YOU PUTIN!

Thoughts with all the people of Ukraine and other near by territory's.
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Thoughts and solidarity with the people of Ukraine. This nutcase must be stopped by any means necessary
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I'm sick to my stomach over this.

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He's an awful person. Despite the fact that the media has built up this invasion as a certainty for weeks, it was still shocking to read the news this morning. I think Marky already said it best, but I'll add I'm seriously hoping karma gets that POS sooner than later.
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I too am thoroughly disgusted by Russia's actions. My prayers go out to the people of Ukraine.
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Flex wrote:
24 Feb 2022, 12:53am
We have good friends with family in Ukraine. Thoughts are with them for their safety.
UPDATE: From what we can tell, they seem safe for now. Friend has been in touch with their family there, they're on the Belarusian border near where it meets up with the border to Russia. it seems incomprehensible to me that they're safe since that seems like an area seeing some major troop movement but I've never lived in a war zone before so what the fuck do I know.

Friend is russian and has more family there. Ancestrally they're from Ukraine though. She has a lot of interesting thoughts about all this (very anti- the war, to be clear)
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I'm actually seeing a friend of mine tomorrow evening who is originally from Ukraine (she came here in the early 90s with her family when they started letting Jews out). She is devastated.

Glad your friend is safe, Flex.
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Flex wrote:
24 Feb 2022, 5:52pm
Flex wrote:
24 Feb 2022, 12:53am
We have good friends with family in Ukraine. Thoughts are with them for their safety.
UPDATE: From what we can tell, they seem safe for now. Friend has been in touch with their family there, they're on the Belarusian border near where it meets up with the border to Russia. it seems incomprehensible to me that they're safe since that seems like an area seeing some major troop movement but I've never lived in a war zone before so what the fuck do I know.

Friend is russian and has more family there. Ancestrally they're from Ukraine though. She has a lot of interesting thoughts about all this (very anti- the war, to be clear)
Glad they are safe!!! I have family near the area but not in Ukraine and have been worried myself, so I can’t imagine what I’d be feeling with loved ones actually there. Such a horrible and sad situation, I hope your friend’s family continues to stay safe through all of this!

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I've had a couple of Mai Tai's so slightly drunken Chris/WWK might be typing...but it's moments like this where I truly miss Joe. The world could use his voice right now.
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Flex wrote:
24 Feb 2022, 5:52pm
Flex wrote:
24 Feb 2022, 12:53am
We have good friends with family in Ukraine. Thoughts are with them for their safety.
UPDATE: From what we can tell, they seem safe for now. Friend has been in touch with their family there, they're on the Belarusian border near where it meets up with the border to Russia. it seems incomprehensible to me that they're safe since that seems like an area seeing some major troop movement but I've never lived in a war zone before so what the fuck do I know.

Friend is russian and has more family there. Ancestrally they're from Ukraine though. She has a lot of interesting thoughts about all this (very anti- the war, to be clear)
I have an ex-girlfriend from Ukraine. My morning started with a cup of coffee and watching footage of her hometown being hit with a missile. She lives in the US. I checked in with her and her family's safe for now at least.
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eumaas wrote:
24 Feb 2022, 7:25pm
I have an ex-girlfriend from Ukraine. My morning started with a cup of coffee and watching footage of her hometown being hit with a missile. She lives in the US. I checked in with her and her family's safe for now at least.
That's good to hear (and everyone else here who has checked in or has friends/family impacted).

War sucks.
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The family in Slovakia has some broad opinions on the matter. They share a small portion of their eastern border with Ukraine. I'm aware that they are quite worried about the situation. I think the older generation is generally wary of Russia, though their views on communism are pretty mixed. One of my mid-20s male cousins who has shared a lot of anti-vax stuff has unsurprisingly shared semi-pro Russian stuff. The stuff itself doesn't seem so bad, but the people who he is sharing have some very pro-Russian stuff. Here's an excerpt (not what a cousin shared, but something else from someone he did share): "The US and Great Britain are calling for war, not Russia, which they pushed into a corner, which had no where to retreat. People in Slovakia must also realize this, that in the case of Ukraine, the main aggressor is the Ukrainian puppet regime controlled by the USA. Also, people need to realize that by supporting this Ukrainian dictatorial regime they become supporters and advocates of neo-nazism and ethnic cleansing."

(This is all via auto translation apps and some of the stuff I have to manually translate (like images with text on it).
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Also, a fb friend who is deep into Q Anon posted some vague stuff. I'm really curious what their gonzo take is.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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