It's Always Darkest Before It Goes Pitch Black: Trump's New America

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Silent Majority wrote:
27 May 2025, 4:07pm
Flex wrote:
27 May 2025, 4:06pm
Silent Majority wrote:
27 May 2025, 3:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 May 2025, 7:03pm
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodi ... 025-05-22/

I know I shouldn't be stunned or what have you, and yet I still am flabbergasted at how predictable America's trading partners have responded … and how that seems to have escaped Trump et al when initiating this trade war. It's like breaking up with someone and thinking they'd be so desperate to get back together they'd do anything for you, instead of just going on with their life and finding someone new. I'm not thrilled by getting closer to an authoritarian regime like China, but as part of a larger strategy of disentangling from the US, it's sensible. The Chinese must be delighted at how the US keeps shooting itself in the crotch.
American excepionalism is a terrible metric for an American government to base any thinking on. This is another time that the Trump regime, and conservatism worldwide, are anti-Darwinian in their thinking. They're a bunch of dodos in eagles' clothing, racing to investigate what all this gunfire noise is.


And, really, at this point, how much worse an authoritarian hell scape is China vs the US?
I'm a China dove mostly but I will say the u.s. is at least not actively engaged in a genocide against a portion of its population right now
Right on, I'm ignorant about what's going in China.
China's ongoing genocidal polticies against the Ughyur population:
Millions of Uyghurs are suffering from unspeakable atrocities at the hands of the Chinese government, including forced sterilization of young women, enforced separation of families and placement of children in state orphanages, and the mass detention of more than one million people since 2017 in detention camps and forced labor camps. Uyghurs are also being transferred to factories in China proper and used as modern-day slaves.
https://ieres.elliott.gwu.edu/project/c ... t-uyghurs/
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Flex wrote:
27 May 2025, 4:06pm
Silent Majority wrote:
27 May 2025, 3:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 May 2025, 7:03pm
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodi ... 025-05-22/

I know I shouldn't be stunned or what have you, and yet I still am flabbergasted at how predictable America's trading partners have responded … and how that seems to have escaped Trump et al when initiating this trade war. It's like breaking up with someone and thinking they'd be so desperate to get back together they'd do anything for you, instead of just going on with their life and finding someone new. I'm not thrilled by getting closer to an authoritarian regime like China, but as part of a larger strategy of disentangling from the US, it's sensible. The Chinese must be delighted at how the US keeps shooting itself in the crotch.
American excepionalism is a terrible metric for an American government to base any thinking on. This is another time that the Trump regime, and conservatism worldwide, are anti-Darwinian in their thinking. They're a bunch of dodos in eagles' clothing, racing to investigate what all this gunfire noise is.


And, really, at this point, how much worse an authoritarian hell scape is China vs the US?
I'm a China dove mostly but I will say the u.s. is at least not actively engaged in a genocide against a portion of its population right now
And now that Biden is no longer in charge, the US isn't complicit in any genocides elsewhere! :shifty:
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Flex wrote:
27 May 2025, 4:09pm
Silent Majority wrote:
27 May 2025, 4:07pm
Flex wrote:
27 May 2025, 4:06pm
Silent Majority wrote:
27 May 2025, 3:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 May 2025, 7:03pm
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodi ... 025-05-22/

I know I shouldn't be stunned or what have you, and yet I still am flabbergasted at how predictable America's trading partners have responded … and how that seems to have escaped Trump et al when initiating this trade war. It's like breaking up with someone and thinking they'd be so desperate to get back together they'd do anything for you, instead of just going on with their life and finding someone new. I'm not thrilled by getting closer to an authoritarian regime like China, but as part of a larger strategy of disentangling from the US, it's sensible. The Chinese must be delighted at how the US keeps shooting itself in the crotch.
American excepionalism is a terrible metric for an American government to base any thinking on. This is another time that the Trump regime, and conservatism worldwide, are anti-Darwinian in their thinking. They're a bunch of dodos in eagles' clothing, racing to investigate what all this gunfire noise is.


And, really, at this point, how much worse an authoritarian hell scape is China vs the US?
I'm a China dove mostly but I will say the u.s. is at least not actively engaged in a genocide against a portion of its population right now
Right on, I'm ignorant about what's going in China.
China's ongoing genocidal polticies against the Ughyur population:
Millions of Uyghurs are suffering from unspeakable atrocities at the hands of the Chinese government, including forced sterilization of young women, enforced separation of families and placement of children in state orphanages, and the mass detention of more than one million people since 2017 in detention camps and forced labor camps. Uyghurs are also being transferred to factories in China proper and used as modern-day slaves.
https://ieres.elliott.gwu.edu/project/c ... t-uyghurs/
Appreciate the education, thank you for sharing.
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revbob wrote:
28 May 2025, 5:37pm
Even more appropriate, wondering how Germans could fall under the spell of a ridiculous raving loon. They, at least, were entering strange and new historical territory.
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Hello,

Yeah, we need to deport those Venezuelan gang drug dealers and put our great American gang drug dealers back to work;

https://archive.ph/vBRko#selection-4619.134-4632.0

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gkbill wrote:
28 May 2025, 9:16pm
Hello,

Yeah, we need to deport those Venezuelan gang drug dealers and put our great American gang drug dealers back to work;

https://archive.ph/vBRko#selection-4619.134-4632.0
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“As I traveled, I came to believe that people’s desires and aspirations were as much a part of the land as the wind, solitary animals, and the bright fields of stone and tundra. And, too, that the land existed quite apart from these.”

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https://www.notus.org/health-science/ma ... ion-errors

Made-up problems demand made-up citations. C'mon, this isn't hard, people.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 May 2025, 11:23am
https://www.notus.org/health-science/ma ... ion-errors

Made-up problems demand made-up citations. C'mon, this isn't hard, people.
I'm so glad these guys are in charge and bringing back the bubonic plague because RFK Jr hates autistic people.
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Flex wrote:
29 May 2025, 1:51pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 May 2025, 11:23am
https://www.notus.org/health-science/ma ... ion-errors

Made-up problems demand made-up citations. C'mon, this isn't hard, people.
I'm so glad these guys are in charge and bringing back the bubonic plague because RFK Jr hates autistic people.
We'll eventually find out that a heroin supplier he thought was autistic ripped him off when he was 20.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... griculture

This problem of deporting agricultural workers yet there being no replacement labour available reminds me in some respects to the post-Civil War South. The North industrialized and gained in wealth and power in no small part because the question of race was less important than generating profit. Class mattered more than race. But in the South, every question of economy and technological adaptation first had to be filtered thru the lens of race, which inhibited economic development. Southern elites, generally supported by poor whites, decided they'd rather be poorer than compromise on race and social space. That seems to be the MAGA stance, too. Better for the crops to go unharvested and paycheques get smaller than share space with brown people. And MAGA is, after all, about returning to the past, so there you go.
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Presented without additional comment:
President Trump has revoked permission for a 4-year-old Mexican girl who receives lifesaving medical care from a California hospital to stay in the country. Her doctors said that she will die within days.
Faux Addendum: okay, one comment: love having a president who's "got balls" finally.
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As always, the cruelty is the thing.

That said, there are all these supposedly liberal multi-millionaires. Step the fuck up and foot the bills to get her private care in Mexico.
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