The Political Gun Thread

[Dr. Medulla]

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html

Always remember: Stuff like that is an acceptable social cost to those who want no restrictions on fire arms. Every death, every lifelong trauma, it’s all worth so that guns proliferate.

[JennyB]

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html

My friend who lives in NYC says it's also a very heavily Asian area, so I wonder if this was a terror attack against the AAPI community.

[Mimi]

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html

My friend who lives in NYC says it's also a very heavily Asian area, so I wonder if this was a terror attack against the AAPI community.

Uggghh, great.

[Mimi]

14 babies. 1 teacher.

[matedog]

We deserve every firearm murdered child in this country. After Newtown, this shit just doesn't move me. I mean, it's fucking terrible and horrific, but it's what we as a country allow, so what do else can we expect?

[eumaas]

Always 1. horrified when this thread comes up because it means another shooting, 2. embarrassed when this thread comes up because I'm on the other side of it since it was started.

Would like to see the populace and the cops alike disarmed.

[Flex]

Just horrifyingly sad.

Like Gene, I think I've pinged around on this issue in a few directions, but it feels inescapable that the sheer volume of firearms in this country (as Gene says, in private and public possession alike) is sheer disaster. On a micro-level I can't tell people what to do but on a macro-level it seems obvious we need mass disarmament on all sides.

[Dr. Medulla]

I've long said that if this were the result of serious gun control laws, it would be valid to consider that those laws were not having the desired effect and demand reconsideration. If loose gun laws co-exist with this kind of numbing, recurring madness, it should be sensible to say that the premise of those laws is not valid and a reconsideration pursued. If a person sees no reason to demand restrictions, they are tacitly admitting that those deaths—all gun deaths—are worth it.

[Low Down Low]

I see Marjorie and her GOP chums are taking a little time out to offer heartfelt thoughts and prayers for the victims and bereaved before they get back to the serious business of defending all their hard won freedoms.

[matedog]

2. embarrassed when this thread comes up because I'm on the other side of it since it was started.

Would like to see the populace and the cops alike disarmed.

Anything in particular make you change your opinion?

[Dr. Medulla]

I see Marjorie and her GOP chums are taking a little time out to offer heartfelt thoughts and prayers for the victims and bereaved before they get back to the serious business of defending all their hard won freedoms.

Like making sure women are forced to give birth to children who will be raised to understand that they very well might die at school.

[Low Down Low]

I see Marjorie and her GOP chums are taking a little time out to offer heartfelt thoughts and prayers for the victims and bereaved before they get back to the serious business of defending all their hard won freedoms.

Like making sure women are forced to give birth to children who will be raised to understand that they very well might die at school.

It's quite astonishing that people who profess to be pro life above all should at the same time be pro so many things that seem to be very effective at taking life away. Or maybe not.

[Dr. Medulla]

I see Marjorie and her GOP chums are taking a little time out to offer heartfelt thoughts and prayers for the victims and bereaved before they get back to the serious business of defending all their hard won freedoms.

Like making sure women are forced to give birth to children who will be raised to understand that they very well might die at school.

It's quite astonishing that people who profess to be pro life above all should at the same time be pro so many things that seem to be very effective at taking life away. Or maybe not.

It's very consistent if the real principle is the power to control the bodies of others.

[JennyB]

The NRA is a terrorist organization.

[WestwayKid]

This one has really rattled me. I'm a parent of a nearly 10-year-old 4th grader. It was hard walking her to school this morning. I'm so beyond done with the tired rhetoric of people like Ted Cruz and Ron Johnson (one of my senators and one of the biggest gun lobby money grabbers around). I wouldn't say I'm against guns, but I'm against irresponsible gun ownership. I'm against loopholes that make it so easy to get your hands on a weapon. I'm against high capacity firearms like AR-15's. My son was working on his boater safety license last night. You have to put more work into that than you do to purchase a handgun.