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Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 10:20am
by Dr. Medulla
Mimi wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 9:43am
MTG really is a piece of shit.


"...leave Americans defenseless."

I find that interesting. Defenseless against what? Roadside bombing that happens all the time in this country? Sniper fire? Brutal gang rapes on every street corner? I mean, what? These people are fearing an enemy that exists only in their minds.
Muslims, black people, Hispanics, queer people, atheists, liberals (aka ultraradicalsuperduper leftists) …

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 10:35am
by Sparky
Mimi wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 9:43am
MTG really is a piece of shit.


"...leave Americans defenseless."

I find that interesting. Defenseless against what? Roadside bombing that happens all the time in this country? Sniper fire? Brutal gang rapes on every street corner? I mean, what? These people are fearing an enemy that exists only in their minds.
I have to agree. I love David's response, to the point and spot on.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 10:54am
by Mimi
Dr. Medulla wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 10:20am
Mimi wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 9:43am
MTG really is a piece of shit.


"...leave Americans defenseless."

I find that interesting. Defenseless against what? Roadside bombing that happens all the time in this country? Sniper fire? Brutal gang rapes on every street corner? I mean, what? These people are fearing an enemy that exists only in their minds.
Muslims, black people, Hispanics, queer people, atheists, liberals (aka ultraradicalsuperduper leftists) …
Oh, yeah. Duh! How'd I forget those national security threats?! And this is Pride month. MTG has probably mobilized her anti-Rainbow Connection group, machetes and assault rifles at the ready, MREs stockpiled in their bunkers.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 11:05am
by JennyB
Such a piece of garbage.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 11:34am
by Joe Public
What a Moran.
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#NeverForget

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 12:41pm
by Dr. Medulla
Joe Public wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 11:34am
What a Moran.
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#NeverForget
I'd say there's a 50-50 chance that guy is a state senator now. Conditions have been very favourable for his star to ascend.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 1:04pm
by Silent Majority
Defenceless against some other American with a gun, really

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 1:16pm
by Dr. Medulla
Silent Majority wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 1:04pm
Defenceless against some other American with a gun, really
A fake American, anyway—a resident, sure, but not a *real* American.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 4:07pm
by Kory
Silent Majority wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 1:04pm
Defenceless against some other American with a gun, really
It's supposed to help you defend yourself against a tyrannical government, but if the US govt wanted to demonstrate true tyranny, I'd love to watch these fools try to take on a tank with some AK's.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 4:15pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 4:07pm
Silent Majority wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 1:04pm
Defenceless against some other American with a gun, really
It's supposed to help you defend yourself against a tyrannical government, but if the US govt wanted to demonstrate true tyranny, I'd love to watch these fools try to take on a tank with some AK's.
Given how originalists are so big on the original meaning of the Constitution, it's funny (not really) that they ignore the part about militias being vital because the Founders were suspicious of a standing army (because it led to tyranny). But given the existence of a standing army, how is the original meaning of the 2nd A still relevant?

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 5:32pm
by Flex
There was an interesting assertion that I saw the other day that contra the sort of romantic (?) myth of the modern guerilla army that beats back an overwhelming military force, that pretty much all of these smaller guerilla forces still have the backing and support of some major state or another to equip them with supplies, intelligence, etc. Does this ring true for people? Off the top of my head, the EZLN in Chiapas seems to have been a genuinely homegrown affair and, as the years go on, look more and more singular in their successes and sustained commitment to revolutionary principle.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 06 Jun 2022, 8:53pm
by Dr. Medulla
Flex wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 5:32pm
There was an interesting assertion that I saw the other day that contra the sort of romantic (?) myth of the modern guerilla army that beats back an overwhelming military force, that pretty much all of these smaller guerilla forces still have the backing and support of some major state or another to equip them with supplies, intelligence, etc. Does this ring true for people? Off the top of my head, the EZLN in Chiapas seems to have been a genuinely homegrown affair and, as the years go on, look more and more singular in their successes and sustained commitment to revolutionary principle.
It might be the exception that proves the rule? Vietnam is the obvious example whereby North Vietnam depended greatly, decisively, on support from Russia in the face of devastating American bombardment.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 07 Jun 2022, 1:42pm
by weller259
This is a total disgrace.
Republicans are the SOLE reason this is fact.
This shit NEEDS TO STOP.
There is only one way.
Vote ALL those motherfuckers OUT!

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 07 Jun 2022, 2:15pm
by eumaas
Flex wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 5:32pm
There was an interesting assertion that I saw the other day that contra the sort of romantic (?) myth of the modern guerilla army that beats back an overwhelming military force, that pretty much all of these smaller guerilla forces still have the backing and support of some major state or another to equip them with supplies, intelligence, etc. Does this ring true for people? Off the top of my head, the EZLN in Chiapas seems to have been a genuinely homegrown affair and, as the years go on, look more and more singular in their successes and sustained commitment to revolutionary principle.
The Chinese Communists (and at one time the KMT!) had some support from the Soviet Union. Not sure offhand how useful that support was—I think much more in the years right before the revolution and ascent to power.

One of the consequences of the fall of the Soviet Union and the change in policy during the 80s in China was withdrawing serious support for revolutionary movements. Nowadays I tend to think that was as important to the collapse of the left as the symbolic defeat of Marxism in the collapse of the USSR and allied countries.

Re: The Political Gun Thread

Posted: 07 Jun 2022, 7:41pm
by Sparky
weller259 wrote:
07 Jun 2022, 1:42pm
This is a total disgrace.
Republicans are the SOLE reason this is fact.
This shit NEEDS TO STOP.
There is only one way.
Vote ALL those motherfuckers OUT!
I wonder what our forefather's would do if they were here today and saw what a shit show the wording of the second amendment has caused us. :sad: