Was Franken well regarded as a senator at the time? I couldn't help but think at the time that he must not be taken that seriously by Democrats that they'd push him out so quickly.Flex wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:30pmYeah, I think popular wisdom is that if there had been any chance the seat would have flipped he would not have been asked to resign. Also, to the point about tribalism, there are ton of people both in the party apparatus and just regular voters who think it was a mistake, despite it having absolutely no policy consequences.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:25pmFranken got booted very quickly, tho in a state with a Democratic governor, so there was no vote loss.
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I don't have any idea what national Dems said behind closed doors, but I think generally he was considered fine, if basically fungible (as we saw with his resignation). There's sort of this myth that's grown up around his supporters that he was some unique statesman but he was just... fine (I mean, I guess one could say to his credit he just acted like a normal, replacement level senator in office and didn't try to tap into his showbiz chops or something). Absolutely not someone you go die on a hill for unless he represents a loss of power with his exit.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:38pmWas Franken well regarded as a senator at the time? I couldn't help but think at the time that he must not be taken that seriously by Democrats that they'd push him out so quickly.Flex wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:30pmYeah, I think popular wisdom is that if there had been any chance the seat would have flipped he would not have been asked to resign. Also, to the point about tribalism, there are ton of people both in the party apparatus and just regular voters who think it was a mistake, despite it having absolutely no policy consequences.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:25pmFranken got booted very quickly, tho in a state with a Democratic governor, so there was no vote loss.
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It suggests something that the most I can think about him as a politician is his line that he liked Ted Cruz than most people in Washington, and he fucking hated Ted Cruz.Flex wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:42pmI don't have any idea what national Dems said behind closed doors, but I think generally he was considered fine, if basically fungible (as we saw with his resignation). There's sort of this myth that's grown up around his supporters that he was some unique statesman but he was just... fine (I mean, I guess one could say to his credit he just acted like a normal, replacement level senator in office and didn't try to tap into his showbiz chops or something). Absolutely not someone you go die on a hill for unless he represents a loss of power with his exit.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:38pmWas Franken well regarded as a senator at the time? I couldn't help but think at the time that he must not be taken that seriously by Democrats that they'd push him out so quickly.Flex wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:30pmYeah, I think popular wisdom is that if there had been any chance the seat would have flipped he would not have been asked to resign. Also, to the point about tribalism, there are ton of people both in the party apparatus and just regular voters who think it was a mistake, despite it having absolutely no policy consequences.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:25pmFranken got booted very quickly, tho in a state with a Democratic governor, so there was no vote loss.
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For what it's worth, I do remember him shining a light on Devos' ineptitude as particularly enjoyable:Flex wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:42pmI don't have any idea what national Dems said behind closed doors, but I think generally he was considered fine, if basically fungible (as we saw with his resignation). There's sort of this myth that's grown up around his supporters that he was some unique statesman but he was just... fine (I mean, I guess one could say to his credit he just acted like a normal, replacement level senator in office and didn't try to tap into his showbiz chops or something). Absolutely not someone you go die on a hill for unless he represents a loss of power with his exit.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:38pmWas Franken well regarded as a senator at the time? I couldn't help but think at the time that he must not be taken that seriously by Democrats that they'd push him out so quickly.Flex wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:30pmYeah, I think popular wisdom is that if there had been any chance the seat would have flipped he would not have been asked to resign. Also, to the point about tribalism, there are ton of people both in the party apparatus and just regular voters who think it was a mistake, despite it having absolutely no policy consequences.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Jan 2023, 1:25pmFranken got booted very quickly, tho in a state with a Democratic governor, so there was no vote loss.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Missouri having an extremely normal one, I see:
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As has been observed by others, wearing masks to limit the spread of a potentially fatal virus signals the death of the republic, but, dammit, women in public gotta cover up their arms for the sake of decency!
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So the Taliban are in Missouri now?
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Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung
Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung
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Losing Republican candidate arrested for shooting up 4 prominent Democrats homes in New Mexico.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/losin ... 882fcec7a3
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Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung
Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung
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Got a Rake? Sure!
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Wouldn't the easier solution be to not allow women to hold office or vote? If they need instructions on how to dress in public, clearly they shouldn't have a say in public matters.
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There really doesn't seem to be a bottom here, huh?
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Would you blink if he were announced as a suspect in a string of unsolved murders on the east coast over the course of two decades?
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Would you blink if he were announced as a suspect in a string of unsolved murders on the east coast over the course of two decades?
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George Santos claims he survived ‘assassination attempt,’ had shoes stolen off his feet
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I think I've said this already, but he's a goddamned Veep character.revbob wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 2:40pmGeorge Santos claims he survived ‘assassination attempt,’ had shoes stolen off his feet
https://nypost.com/2023/01/24/george-sa ... n-attempt/
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Swear to dog but he reminds me of my ex-husband and his family. They'd go out for a gallon of milk and come back with tales of adventure. They were the biggest, and shittiest, liars/story-tellers. It was so scary how they could tell you what was clearly bs with a straight face. lol I laugh now, but it was painful af at the time. I can't wait to see what happens to this guy.revbob wrote: ↑24 Jan 2023, 2:40pmGeorge Santos claims he survived ‘assassination attempt,’ had shoes stolen off his feet
https://nypost.com/2023/01/24/george-sa ... n-attempt/