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Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 May 2023, 4:35pm
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lauren-b ... 444c790d8f

That guy'll be in jail with three years and once she's out of office I foresee Ponzi scheme/drug addiction.
He disciplines them by making them run laps and do pushups. Whoa, he's a keeper.
He'll also show you his pecker as long as you're not too old.*

* 18 or worse.

I just heard part of the 911 call and I was ready to feel some sympathy for her situation but it sounded like she was covering for her husband. God, what a piece of shit.
I'd have some sympathy if she weren't in a position of some influence and was using it to make her country more dystopic.
And that too, natch.

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How awful do you have to be if Texas Republicans turn on one of their own? These people put up with Ted fucking Cruz.
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Thoughts on Chris Christie running? Coming from NJ and brash himself, I wonder if he's capable of being the guy who isn't scared to go after Trump. Also seems like someone who pre-Trump Republicans could embrace.
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Thoughts on Chris Christie running? Coming from NJ and brash himself, I wonder if he's capable of being the guy who isn't scared to go after Trump. Also seems like someone who pre-Trump Republicans could embrace.
Nobody likes Christie. :lol: It'll be fun to watch him sling some mud, though.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
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Thoughts on Chris Christie running? Coming from NJ and brash himself, I wonder if he's capable of being the guy who isn't scared to go after Trump. Also seems like someone who pre-Trump Republicans could embrace.
The only value in him running is if it's a murder/suicide to take down trump. The base will destroy him for it, but if yo think the republic is better off with desantis than trump, maybe it's worth it in the end.
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Trump v. Christie:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
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Thoughts on Chris Christie running? Coming from NJ and brash himself, I wonder if he's capable of being the guy who isn't scared to go after Trump. Also seems like someone who pre-Trump Republicans could embrace.
My parents basically made the same argument for the one month they were into Bloomberg - “he’s a New Yorker. He’s the only one mean enough to take on Trump” and then he got deliciously destroyed real quick by Warren.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
31 May 2023, 5:36pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 May 2023, 3:48pm
Thoughts on Chris Christie running? Coming from NJ and brash himself, I wonder if he's capable of being the guy who isn't scared to go after Trump. Also seems like someone who pre-Trump Republicans could embrace.
My parents basically made the same argument for the one month they were into Bloomberg - “he’s a New Yorker. He’s the only one mean enough to take on Trump” and then he got deliciously destroyed real quick by Warren.
Seeing Monty Burns get kicked around was undeniably satisfying.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 May 2023, 5:56pm
matedog wrote:
31 May 2023, 5:36pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 May 2023, 3:48pm
Thoughts on Chris Christie running? Coming from NJ and brash himself, I wonder if he's capable of being the guy who isn't scared to go after Trump. Also seems like someone who pre-Trump Republicans could embrace.
My parents basically made the same argument for the one month they were into Bloomberg - “he’s a New Yorker. He’s the only one mean enough to take on Trump” and then he got deliciously destroyed real quick by Warren.
Seeing Monty Burns get kicked around was undeniably satisfying.
Hello,

I just read this from the NY Daily News:

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny- ... Numeric%23

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gkbill wrote:
31 May 2023, 6:23pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 May 2023, 5:56pm
matedog wrote:
31 May 2023, 5:36pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 May 2023, 3:48pm
Thoughts on Chris Christie running? Coming from NJ and brash himself, I wonder if he's capable of being the guy who isn't scared to go after Trump. Also seems like someone who pre-Trump Republicans could embrace.
My parents basically made the same argument for the one month they were into Bloomberg - “he’s a New Yorker. He’s the only one mean enough to take on Trump” and then he got deliciously destroyed real quick by Warren.
Seeing Monty Burns get kicked around was undeniably satisfying.
Hello,

I just read this from the NY Daily News:

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny- ... Numeric%23
That was my curiosity/speculation (curipeculation?). If he has a path forward apart from that assassin role, it's that two impending indictments for Trump actually does shake things up and makes him not viable, and if CC's positioned himself early on as the genuine alternative to the MAGA crap—DeSantis wants to be the inheritor, the others have been meek on the topic—then maybe he thinks things can coalesce around him. Not that I think that that will play out, but if CC thinks he can actually win the nomination, it would be that way.
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Trump's indictments just increase his support with the republican base.
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Flex wrote:
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Trump's indictments just increase his support with the republican base.
Maybe. His hold on the party, while still very strong, has eroded some. Which is to say, I'm not convinced that his hold is to the death. The question is whether the base wants to win or it wants the purity of its rage, even if that means losing. I honestly don't know whether they're willing to lose as long it's with their guy.
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Trump's indictments just increase his support with the republican base.
Maybe. His hold on the party, while still very strong, has eroded some. Which is to say, I'm not convinced that his hold is to the death. The question is whether the base wants to win or it wants the purity of its rage, even if that means losing. I honestly don't know whether they're willing to lose as long it's with their guy.
His hold on the party has actually INCREASED since his legal troubles began: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/3 ... t-00090001

Republicans make no bones about whether they would support trump as a convicted criminal: https://www.npr.org/2023/04/25/11716609 ... cted-crime

The legal stuff is republican primary gold... for trump.

Addendum: and party leadership is coming back to the trump fold real, real quick: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/399 ... -dominant/
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Flex wrote:
31 May 2023, 7:21pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 May 2023, 7:08pm
Flex wrote:
31 May 2023, 6:40pm
Trump's indictments just increase his support with the republican base.
Maybe. His hold on the party, while still very strong, has eroded some. Which is to say, I'm not convinced that his hold is to the death. The question is whether the base wants to win or it wants the purity of its rage, even if that means losing. I honestly don't know whether they're willing to lose as long it's with their guy.
His hold on the party has actually INCREASED since his legal troubles began: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/3 ... t-00090001

Republicans make no bones about whether they would support trump as a convicted criminal: https://www.npr.org/2023/04/25/11716609 ... cted-crime

The legal stuff is republican primary gold... for trump.

Addendum: and party leadership is coming back to the trump fold real, real quick: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/399 ... -dominant/
And yet, I'm unconvinced that additional indictments won't negatively affect him. Even if the charges themselves don't matter to the base, if legal needs inhibit how he presents himself in public, how does his tough guy act work? I'm fundamentally skeptical of the idea that things are pretty much set in stone.
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