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Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
by Low Down Low
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 1:45pm
by Marky Dread
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:18pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 12:50pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 9:02am
The Policing bill and cops attacks on protesters getting any play abroad?
Are you speaking about the young woman suspected of being murdered by a cop while walking home? If so, no, I haven't seen much about it outside of the usual UK media sources.
Bristol's had about a week of protests against the bill which seeks to limit the right to protest, criminalise travellers, among other things. The police have been cracking heads, punching people sat on some grass chanting "Peaceful Protest." Some hyper-authoritarian scenes, with the cops' claims of having had bones broken and lungs fractured by protesters lasting a news cycle before then quietly admitting that nothing like that happened.
Ray Gange was saying exactly the same stuff on his FB page. Complete Police bullshit yet again.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
by Silent Majority
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 2:15pm
by Marky Dread
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
White van man?
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 2:52pm
by Silent Majority
Marky Dread wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:15pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
White van man?
Yeah, that's probably the character they've invented to tell themselves they're being politically clever by providing zero opposition to the conservatives.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 2:58pm
by Dr. Medulla
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
We're a zillion years away from when Franklin Roosevelt would say, and be applauded for, that he welcomed the hate of the wealthy. Why on earth the left should give half a fuck what the worst elements of society and their allies think about being labelled monsters. Does the left act this way out of some kneejerk opposition to the fact that the right enjoys as a badge of authenticity the contempt of their own foes?
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
by Silent Majority
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:58pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
We're a zillion years away from when Franklin Roosevelt would say, and be applauded for, that he welcomed the hate of the wealthy. Why on earth the left should give half a fuck what the worst elements of society and their allies think about being labelled monsters. Does the left act this way out of some kneejerk opposition to the fact that the right enjoys as a badge of authenticity the contempt of their own foes?
The Labour party are absolutely certain that there is no electoral support for a left-wing agenda, which they can prove by pointing out that their constant undermining and coups against the Corbyn project ensured its failure.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 3:16pm
by Low Down Low
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:58pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
We're a zillion years away from when Franklin Roosevelt would say, and be applauded for, that he welcomed the hate of the wealthy. Why on earth the left should give half a fuck what the worst elements of society and their allies think about being labelled monsters. Does the left act this way out of some kneejerk opposition to the fact that the right enjoys as a badge of authenticity the contempt of their own foes?
The Labour party are absolutely certain that there is no electoral support for a left-wing agenda, which they can prove by pointing out that their constant undermining and coups against the Corbyn project ensured its failure.
It's like they think they can shift the debate to the right and beat the Tories on their own proven ground. That seems totally fucking bonkers to me. It's not 1997 anymore.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 3:31pm
by Dr. Medulla
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:16pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:58pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
We're a zillion years away from when Franklin Roosevelt would say, and be applauded for, that he welcomed the hate of the wealthy. Why on earth the left should give half a fuck what the worst elements of society and their allies think about being labelled monsters. Does the left act this way out of some kneejerk opposition to the fact that the right enjoys as a badge of authenticity the contempt of their own foes?
The Labour party are absolutely certain that there is no electoral support for a left-wing agenda, which they can prove by pointing out that their constant undermining and coups against the Corbyn project ensured its failure.
It's like they think they can shift the debate to the right and beat the Tories on their own proven ground. That seems totally fucking bonkers to me. It's not 1997 anymore.
It's one of those things that remind myself that, even if I support a lot of left ideals, I just can't think of myself as a leftist because what formal leftist expressions are so cowardly if not treacherous. I have faith in my values but little in what passes for the left in practice.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 3:46pm
by Silent Majority
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:16pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:58pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
We're a zillion years away from when Franklin Roosevelt would say, and be applauded for, that he welcomed the hate of the wealthy. Why on earth the left should give half a fuck what the worst elements of society and their allies think about being labelled monsters. Does the left act this way out of some kneejerk opposition to the fact that the right enjoys as a badge of authenticity the contempt of their own foes?
The Labour party are absolutely certain that there is no electoral support for a left-wing agenda, which they can prove by pointing out that their constant undermining and coups against the Corbyn project ensured its failure.
It's like they think they can shift the debate to the right and beat the Tories on their own proven ground. That seems totally fucking bonkers to me. It's not 1997 anymore.
And Blair exoriated Major and the Tories at every single opportunity, which the Labour right have totally Eternal Sunshine'd.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 3:58pm
by Low Down Low
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:46pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:16pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:58pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
We're a zillion years away from when Franklin Roosevelt would say, and be applauded for, that he welcomed the hate of the wealthy. Why on earth the left should give half a fuck what the worst elements of society and their allies think about being labelled monsters. Does the left act this way out of some kneejerk opposition to the fact that the right enjoys as a badge of authenticity the contempt of their own foes?
The Labour party are absolutely certain that there is no electoral support for a left-wing agenda, which they can prove by pointing out that their constant undermining and coups against the Corbyn project ensured its failure.
It's like they think they can shift the debate to the right and beat the Tories on their own proven ground. That seems totally fucking bonkers to me. It's not 1997 anymore.
And Blair exoriated Major and the Tories at every single opportunity, which the Labour right have totally Eternal Sunshine'd.
That's very true. I suppose i meant its not 1997 in the sense the tories aren't a beaten docket like they were then when Blair inherited a 20 point lead from John Smith. For a while there it seemed they were thinking, do nothing and we'll sail to power in the back of tory lies and incompetence, now the vaccine success has blindsided them and they're back to raising their hem to workington man.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 4:12pm
by FarawayTowns
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
Yes, like this...
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 4:20pm
by FarawayTowns
At least the local Labour candidates are showing concern for Police actions even if Starmer and the majority of mp's aren't.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 4:21pm
by Low Down Low
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:31pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:16pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 3:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:58pm
Silent Majority wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 2:10pm
The entire Labour frontbench are craven morons, who support the police's use of force against citizens unconditionally not because of their own beliefs, but to assuage any concerns an imaginary racist van driver might have about them.
We're a zillion years away from when Franklin Roosevelt would say, and be applauded for, that he welcomed the hate of the wealthy. Why on earth the left should give half a fuck what the worst elements of society and their allies think about being labelled monsters. Does the left act this way out of some kneejerk opposition to the fact that the right enjoys as a badge of authenticity the contempt of their own foes?
The Labour party are absolutely certain that there is no electoral support for a left-wing agenda, which they can prove by pointing out that their constant undermining and coups against the Corbyn project ensured its failure.
It's like they think they can shift the debate to the right and beat the Tories on their own proven ground. That seems totally fucking bonkers to me. It's not 1997 anymore.
It's uk one of those things that remind myself that, even if I support a lot of left ideals, I just can't think of myself as a leftist because what formal leftist expressions are so cowardly if not treacherous. I have faith in my values but little in what passes for the left in practice.
I know where you're coming from. The same dynamic i'm thinking where jeremy corbyns policies poll really well across all sections of the population but they still wouldn't vote for him to be pm. I'm actually in a place where i don't see any credible leftist option and that grieves me. The greens are closest but they need to get their act together.
Re: Hey limeys
Posted: 27 Mar 2021, 4:22pm
by Low Down Low
FarawayTowns wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 4:12pm
Low Down Low wrote: ↑27 Mar 2021, 1:24pm
It seems rather disturbing to me that the police are beating up innocent protesters, routinely lying to the public and yet the leader of the opposition, so desperate to be the voice of law and order, has absolutely nothing to say about it whatsoever.
Yes, like this...
That video is appalling. That's assault and battery at a minimum and maybe even worse. Hope that unfortunate young woman is ok.