No, No, Don't Worry. Racism is Pretty Much Over.

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101Walterton wrote:
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Racist Lives Matter. :naughty: ;)
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Marky Dread wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 3:08am
Silent Majority wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 1:23am
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 4:56pm
Silent Majority wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 4:39pm
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Yeah I get that. But "white privilege" is just another label to me. No one dares talk about "black privilege" there are wealthy black people who care little for those that still remain in the ghettos. Nothing is ever simple when it comes to race hate.
Until we ALL learn to accept each other be it by colour or class etc we will truly struggle to move forward.
I agree with you that struggle has to come across the board, all across the class and race and gender spectrums.

White privilege, though, means that wealthy black people can still have the police called on them for no reason - like asking a white woman to put a leash on their dog - and it turning into murder by cop. White people get the benefit of the doubt in a way that everyone else doesn't. They'll be offered a job more readily and assumed to be brighter. That's the privilege, not the material wealth.
Yes, yes of course I'm not suggesting that "white privilege" doesn't continue to keep us all down. The killing of black people through Police brutality is a disgrace. But then the killing by police brutality of any man is a disgrace. As to "That's the privilege" that assumes all white people think the same and I do not accept that. Racists exist everywhere from many different walks of life. I may be of "white privilege" but I can still choose to treat all with respect and consideration.
No, of course. I've got no doubt at all that you do. The concept of white privilege is a systemic thing. It's not saying that all whites have it easy or that all are racists, it's just that they don't have to deal with the particular shit that black (and brown) people do in areas of the world where they are in a minority.
I think that one of the biggest enemies may be stereotyping. There are many poor areas here in the UK (as across the world) where having white privilege means very little. Poor predominantly white council estates that are heavily rife with drugs. Where the police no longer see you as a human being but just as lowlife.

Being white middle class and coming from a nice neighbourhood and just being aware of "white privilege" simply isn't enough.

Having the experience of growing up with black friends and seeing and hearing racist bullshit first hand and fighting against this injustice doesn't make me "righteous" or "woke" but at least it showed I cared and did something. Knowledge is power but only if you choose to use it.
I'm sorry if it came across as my trying to play "woker than thou" I really have no interest in that at all. I think we don't spend enough time defining the terms which then go out in to the real world and divisive misconceptions can build up around what they mean.
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JennyB wrote:
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I wouldn't call it Nazidar, but just a good instinct of people I should stay away from.
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Silent Majority wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 6:02am
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 3:08am
Silent Majority wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 1:23am
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 4:56pm
Silent Majority wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 4:39pm


I agree with you that struggle has to come across the board, all across the class and race and gender spectrums.

White privilege, though, means that wealthy black people can still have the police called on them for no reason - like asking a white woman to put a leash on their dog - and it turning into murder by cop. White people get the benefit of the doubt in a way that everyone else doesn't. They'll be offered a job more readily and assumed to be brighter. That's the privilege, not the material wealth.
Yes, yes of course I'm not suggesting that "white privilege" doesn't continue to keep us all down. The killing of black people through Police brutality is a disgrace. But then the killing by police brutality of any man is a disgrace. As to "That's the privilege" that assumes all white people think the same and I do not accept that. Racists exist everywhere from many different walks of life. I may be of "white privilege" but I can still choose to treat all with respect and consideration.
No, of course. I've got no doubt at all that you do. The concept of white privilege is a systemic thing. It's not saying that all whites have it easy or that all are racists, it's just that they don't have to deal with the particular shit that black (and brown) people do in areas of the world where they are in a minority.
I think that one of the biggest enemies may be stereotyping. There are many poor areas here in the UK (as across the world) where having white privilege means very little. Poor predominantly white council estates that are heavily rife with drugs. Where the police no longer see you as a human being but just as lowlife.

Being white middle class and coming from a nice neighbourhood and just being aware of "white privilege" simply isn't enough.

Having the experience of growing up with black friends and seeing and hearing racist bullshit first hand and fighting against this injustice doesn't make me "righteous" or "woke" but at least it showed I cared and did something. Knowledge is power but only if you choose to use it.
I'm sorry if it came across as my trying to play "woker than thou" I really have no interest in that at all. I think we don't spend enough time defining the terms which then go out in to the real world and divisive misconceptions can build up around what they mean.
Hey no way you need to apologize to me. You are my friend who has a smart brain and a good heart.

Yes those "definitions" are very important. I feel that every time we give something a label it somehow under values important parts of the issues. By saying it means "this" or "that". Racism being something that is never simple. Whereas hatred on the other hand needs no definition.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 6:35am
JennyB wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 11:09pm
I wouldn't call it Nazidar, but just a good instinct of people I should stay away from.
Cheap red ball caps have come to be good identifiers.
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oliver wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 8:45am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 6:35am
JennyB wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 11:09pm
I wouldn't call it Nazidar, but just a good instinct of people I should stay away from.
Cheap red ball caps have come to be good identifiers.
Hence my getting the blue Goldpanners hat. ( see MLB thread)

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 6:35am
JennyB wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 11:09pm
I wouldn't call it Nazidar, but just a good instinct of people I should stay away from.
Cheap red ball caps have come to be good identifiers.
Yep.
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Yale's astronomy dept ain't racist—remember when they hired a black secretary just after Reagan's second term started?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 8:02pm
Yale's astronomy dept ain't racist—remember when they hired a black secretary just after Reagan's second term started?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/st ... ism-emails
C'mon just how many black people do you need for an equal opportunity program. Yale strike the balance with "been there done that". Unreal :rolleyes:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 10:18am
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aunt-jem ... a2f40efb4d

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revbob wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 11:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 10:18am
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/aunt-jem ... a2f40efb4d

And wait for the usual suspects to boycott pancakes in 3 … 2 …
Freedom fries or death!!!

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JennyB wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 12:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 6:35am
JennyB wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 11:09pm
I wouldn't call it Nazidar, but just a good instinct of people I should stay away from.
Cheap red ball caps have come to be good identifiers.
Yep.
But enough about Cardinals fans...
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Wolter wrote:
17 Jun 2020, 11:25am
JennyB wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 12:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
16 Jun 2020, 6:35am
JennyB wrote:
15 Jun 2020, 11:09pm
I wouldn't call it Nazidar, but just a good instinct of people I should stay away from.
Cheap red ball caps have come to be good identifiers.
Yep.
But enough about Cardinals fans...
Joke thief!
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