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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:29pm
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So it ocurred to me recently what are the chances that these "troops" in Portland are actually Blackwater types? Not sure if this question has been raised yet but the wife and I were throwing this about. I mean maybe the reason they don't have insignias etc is because they are mercenaries.
I'm not drawn to those kinds of conspiracy theories, but the heady mix of contempt for the law, dumb-assed incompetence, and allure of thuggery makes this difficult to dismiss. We know it'll be true if Blackwater gets stiffed for payment.
Im not looking at it as a conspiracy. This was done overseas and history has shown that tactics used by governments overseas are often adopted at home

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Im not looking at it as a conspiracy. This was done overseas and history has shown that tactics used by governments overseas are often adopted at home
It's not a conspiracy if it's right out there in the open, right? The government has relied on hired goons for a long time. People don't talk about the last decent Republican president enough. Ike warned of the MIC in 1961 and then it came and them we just got used to it. Jesus, look at every aspect of society and I'll show you the hucksters.

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revbob wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:29pm
revbob wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 8:59pm
So it ocurred to me recently what are the chances that these "troops" in Portland are actually Blackwater types? Not sure if this question has been raised yet but the wife and I were throwing this about. I mean maybe the reason they don't have insignias etc is because they are mercenaries.
I'm not drawn to those kinds of conspiracy theories, but the heady mix of contempt for the law, dumb-assed incompetence, and allure of thuggery makes this difficult to dismiss. We know it'll be true if Blackwater gets stiffed for payment.
Im not looking at it as a conspiracy. This was done overseas and history has shown that tactics used by governments overseas are often adopted at home
But it would be a conspiracy because it involves a plot and a subversion of the truth.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 7:04am
revbob wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:29pm
revbob wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 8:59pm
So it ocurred to me recently what are the chances that these "troops" in Portland are actually Blackwater types? Not sure if this question has been raised yet but the wife and I were throwing this about. I mean maybe the reason they don't have insignias etc is because they are mercenaries.
I'm not drawn to those kinds of conspiracy theories, but the heady mix of contempt for the law, dumb-assed incompetence, and allure of thuggery makes this difficult to dismiss. We know it'll be true if Blackwater gets stiffed for payment.
Im not looking at it as a conspiracy. This was done overseas and history has shown that tactics used by governments overseas are often adopted at home
But it would be a conspiracy because it involves a plot and a subversion of the truth.
Point taken. It was just something that occurred to me. The troops sent to DC all had identifiable markers on their uniform. I've since done some reading on this as I'm not the only one to wonder this and the explanation given by the government whether it is truthful or not is plausible.

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revbob wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 7:04am
revbob wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:29pm
revbob wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 8:59pm
So it ocurred to me recently what are the chances that these "troops" in Portland are actually Blackwater types? Not sure if this question has been raised yet but the wife and I were throwing this about. I mean maybe the reason they don't have insignias etc is because they are mercenaries.
I'm not drawn to those kinds of conspiracy theories, but the heady mix of contempt for the law, dumb-assed incompetence, and allure of thuggery makes this difficult to dismiss. We know it'll be true if Blackwater gets stiffed for payment.
Im not looking at it as a conspiracy. This was done overseas and history has shown that tactics used by governments overseas are often adopted at home
But it would be a conspiracy because it involves a plot and a subversion of the truth.
Point taken. It was just something that occurred to me. The troops sent to DC all had identifiable markers on their uniform. I've since done some reading on this as I'm not the only one to wonder this and the explanation given by the government whether it is truthful or not is plausible.
What should give some pause is that when it's a Democrat in office, that's the kind of stuff that dominates the right (and, of course, disappears once a Republican is in charge). That doesn't disprove anything, but it does suggest caution in going down that road.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:35am
revbob wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 7:04am
revbob wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:53pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:29pm


I'm not drawn to those kinds of conspiracy theories, but the heady mix of contempt for the law, dumb-assed incompetence, and allure of thuggery makes this difficult to dismiss. We know it'll be true if Blackwater gets stiffed for payment.
Im not looking at it as a conspiracy. This was done overseas and history has shown that tactics used by governments overseas are often adopted at home
But it would be a conspiracy because it involves a plot and a subversion of the truth.
Point taken. It was just something that occurred to me. The troops sent to DC all had identifiable markers on their uniform. I've since done some reading on this as I'm not the only one to wonder this and the explanation given by the government whether it is truthful or not is plausible.
What should give some pause is that when it's a Democrat in office, that's the kind of stuff that dominates the right (and, of course, disappears once a Republican is in charge). That doesn't disprove anything, but it does suggest caution in going down that road.
Yeah I agree, role reversal and it would be right wingers saying they were UN troops or something. So yeah Im not ready to jump in the deep end yet but Im just kind of using history as my guide.

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revbob wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:41am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:35am
revbob wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 7:04am
revbob wrote:
24 Jul 2020, 9:53pm


Im not looking at it as a conspiracy. This was done overseas and history has shown that tactics used by governments overseas are often adopted at home
But it would be a conspiracy because it involves a plot and a subversion of the truth.
Point taken. It was just something that occurred to me. The troops sent to DC all had identifiable markers on their uniform. I've since done some reading on this as I'm not the only one to wonder this and the explanation given by the government whether it is truthful or not is plausible.
What should give some pause is that when it's a Democrat in office, that's the kind of stuff that dominates the right (and, of course, disappears once a Republican is in charge). That doesn't disprove anything, but it does suggest caution in going down that road.
Yeah I agree, role reversal and it would be right wingers saying they were UN troops or something. So yeah Im not ready to jump in the deep end yet but Im just kind of using history as my guide.
I'm not dismissing it because it certainly isn't beyond the inclinations of Trump and Barr. But there are other federal officials wouldn't have to be in on it or, especially, excluded, and the notion of someone not blabbing to a reporter is doubtful. One thing about the Trump years is that he's fucked with enough bureaucrats that they've been quick to leak to the press.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 9:06am
revbob wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:41am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:35am
revbob wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 8:05am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
25 Jul 2020, 7:04am


But it would be a conspiracy because it involves a plot and a subversion of the truth.
Point taken. It was just something that occurred to me. The troops sent to DC all had identifiable markers on their uniform. I've since done some reading on this as I'm not the only one to wonder this and the explanation given by the government whether it is truthful or not is plausible.
What should give some pause is that when it's a Democrat in office, that's the kind of stuff that dominates the right (and, of course, disappears once a Republican is in charge). That doesn't disprove anything, but it does suggest caution in going down that road.
Yeah I agree, role reversal and it would be right wingers saying they were UN troops or something. So yeah Im not ready to jump in the deep end yet but Im just kind of using history as my guide.
I'm not dismissing it because it certainly isn't beyond the inclinations of Trump and Barr. But there are other federal officials wouldn't have to be in on it or, especially, excluded, and the notion of someone not blabbing to a reporter is doubtful. One thing about the Trump years is that he's fucked with enough bureaucrats that they've been quick to leak to the press.
Yeah you raise some good points there.

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