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Has anyone seen a fact check for this opinion piece? It seems like pretty incredible propaganda given that homicide prevention is impossible outside of Minority Report.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 137565002/
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Kory wrote:
30 May 2021, 12:30am
Has anyone seen a fact check for this opinion piece? It seems like pretty incredible propaganda given that homicide prevention is impossible outside of Minority Report.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 137565002/
Even if accurate, the underlying message seems to be: you want safer streets, you better let cops do anything they want.
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Pretty much anyone else who holds a job is held to a standard of performance and when you do a shitty job there are consequences.

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30 May 2021, 8:34am
Pretty much anyone else who holds a job is held to a standard of performance and when you do a shitty job there are consequences.
The rule is simple: If you're a civilian and a cop is screaming and pointing a gun at you, you have to remain calm and obedient or they can shoot you (can shifts to will as skin tone darkens). If you're a cop and you're freaked out at all, you can shoot someone. You will be suspended with pay for a week or two, but, hey, there have to be consequences.
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I can't remember where I heard it, npre news or something, but researchers are attributing the rise in gun violence first and foremost to the skyrocketing sales of guns over the last few years primarily with a couple additional factors none of which are any of the (tepid) police reform measures we've seen. It's malpractice that any semi-reputable.news outlet let thg lying propaganda be published. Fuck cops.
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Flex wrote:
30 May 2021, 9:05am
I can't remember where I heard it, npre news or something, but researchers are attributing the rise in gun violence first and foremost to the skyrocketing sales of guns over the last few years primarily with a couple additional factors none of which are any of the (tepid) police reform measures we've seen. It's malpractice that any semi-reputable.news outlet let thg lying propaganda be published. Fuck cops.
This rings way more true. I would be completely stunned to find that ANY PD has been defunded to the point where potential murderers look around and think "field day."
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Kory wrote:
30 May 2021, 4:51pm
Flex wrote:
30 May 2021, 9:05am
I can't remember where I heard it, npre news or something, but researchers are attributing the rise in gun violence first and foremost to the skyrocketing sales of guns over the last few years primarily with a couple additional factors none of which are any of the (tepid) police reform measures we've seen. It's malpractice that any semi-reputable.news outlet let thg lying propaganda be published. Fuck cops.
This rings way more true. I would be completely stunned to find that ANY PD has been defunded to the point where potential murderers look around and think "field day."
But that's how it would play out in tv/movies and people seems to be having an ever loosening grip on reality.

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I've started digging into this youtube channel where they analyze police interrogation videos. A lot of them are notable criminal cases but this is a real fun one:


Basically this self described junkie gets pulled in on some trumped up charges and will just not play along with the cops at all. It's really fun to watch. They keep trying to trick him into giving up his rights and he is having none of it and even insults them a few times.
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Just got a fundraising call from tbe national policemans alliance or some such nonsense looking for donations. Telling me its been a tough year for cops. I said not nearly as tough as its been for the people they've shot. He goes back to his script. I interrupt... Policemen are not volunteers, its a paid job, my taxes pay those salaries and they are mostly well paid jobs why do you need to raise money for them? Well you have a good night sir.

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revbob wrote:
08 Jun 2021, 4:57pm
Just got a fundraising call from tbe national policemans alliance or some such nonsense looking for donations. Telling me its been a tough year for cops. I said not nearly as tough as its been for the people they've shot. He goes back to his script. I interrupt... Policemen are not volunteers, its a paid job, my taxes pay those salaries and they are mostly well paid jobs why do you need to raise money for them? Well you have a good night sir.

Fuckers.
Fundraising for cops is like tipping the waiter who spits in your food. Or the waiter who shoots you for being freaked out when you get out your wallet.
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revbob wrote:
08 Jun 2021, 4:57pm
Just got a fundraising call from tbe national policemans alliance or some such nonsense looking for donations. Telling me its been a tough year for cops. I said not nearly as tough as its been for the people they've shot. He goes back to his script. I interrupt... Policemen are not volunteers, its a paid job, my taxes pay those salaries and they are mostly well paid jobs why do you need to raise money for them? Well you have a good night sir.

Fuckers.
I'm skeptical that anyone phone soliciting for police or fire groups is even legit.
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Sparky wrote:
08 Jun 2021, 8:39pm
revbob wrote:
08 Jun 2021, 4:57pm
Just got a fundraising call from tbe national policemans alliance or some such nonsense looking for donations. Telling me its been a tough year for cops. I said not nearly as tough as its been for the people they've shot. He goes back to his script. I interrupt... Policemen are not volunteers, its a paid job, my taxes pay those salaries and they are mostly well paid jobs why do you need to raise money for them? Well you have a good night sir.

Fuckers.
I'm skeptical that anyone phone soliciting for police or fire groups is even legit.
Yeah,certainly where I live they are both paid quite well. In some places the fire dept is volunteers so I get that

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revbob wrote:
08 Jun 2021, 8:47pm
Sparky wrote:
08 Jun 2021, 8:39pm
revbob wrote:
08 Jun 2021, 4:57pm
Just got a fundraising call from tbe national policemans alliance or some such nonsense looking for donations. Telling me its been a tough year for cops. I said not nearly as tough as its been for the people they've shot. He goes back to his script. I interrupt... Policemen are not volunteers, its a paid job, my taxes pay those salaries and they are mostly well paid jobs why do you need to raise money for them? Well you have a good night sir.

Fuckers.
I'm skeptical that anyone phone soliciting for police or fire groups is even legit.
Yeah,certainly where I live they are both paid quite well. In some places the fire dept is volunteers so I get that
Call me cynical, but I got scammed by a young girl a few years back who was going door to door selling magazines. The pitch was that if you didn't want the subscription, you could have it sent overseas to our troops. Picked a couple of mags, chose a branch of the service to send them to, wrote check then decided to Google the name of the group she was with, shitloads of complaints etc. so I put a stop payment on the check.
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