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Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 12:07pm
by eumaas
not to mention the cameras thing.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 2:06pm
by Silent Majority
Terrible news.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 2:07pm
by matedog
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 11:54am
More so, he's currently charged with three counts of fraud and bribery, yet still wins election? It really is stunning what right-wing voters will tolerate in their candidates as long as they're sufficiently malicious.
That doesn't bode well for the US in 2020...

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 2:11pm
by Dr. Medulla
matedog wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:07pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 11:54am
More so, he's currently charged with three counts of fraud and bribery, yet still wins election? It really is stunning what right-wing voters will tolerate in their candidates as long as they're sufficiently malicious.
That doesn't bode well for the US in 2020...
Apart from right-wing voter fraud or Democratic self-sabotage (which are both legit possibilities), I continue to believe Trump's re-election task is quite difficult. That 3M vote deficit from 2016 plus an angrier opposition plus more dead Boomers and more Millennial and Z voters.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 2:19pm
by matedog
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:11pm
matedog wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:07pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 11:54am
More so, he's currently charged with three counts of fraud and bribery, yet still wins election? It really is stunning what right-wing voters will tolerate in their candidates as long as they're sufficiently malicious.
That doesn't bode well for the US in 2020...
Apart from right-wing voter fraud or Democratic self-sabotage (which are both legit possibilities), I continue to believe Trump's re-election task is quite difficult. That 3M vote deficit from 2016 plus an angrier opposition plus more dead Boomers and more Millennial and Z voters.
Sounds like it is you who are the King of Wishful Thinking.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 2:19pm
by JennyB
I am really upset about this. So are all of my Israeli friends.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 2:47pm
by Dr. Medulla
matedog wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:11pm
matedog wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:07pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 11:54am
More so, he's currently charged with three counts of fraud and bribery, yet still wins election? It really is stunning what right-wing voters will tolerate in their candidates as long as they're sufficiently malicious.
That doesn't bode well for the US in 2020...
Apart from right-wing voter fraud or Democratic self-sabotage (which are both legit possibilities), I continue to believe Trump's re-election task is quite difficult. That 3M vote deficit from 2016 plus an angrier opposition plus more dead Boomers and more Millennial and Z voters.
Sounds like it is you who are the King of Wishful Thinking.
I fail to see how a guy who won by the fluke of the EC and has done nothing whatsoever to expand his voter base is in a good position to be re-elected. Absolutely nobody I've talked to has told me where he'll be getting new votes and/or how the Democrats' total will shrink.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 2:59pm
by Silent Majority
Sheer arrogant branding will win him the popular vote. There's young shithead computer game Nazis coming up to replace the bougie dying Republicans.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 3:01pm
by Inder
Silent Majority wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:59pm
There's young shithead computer game Nazis coming up to replace the bougie dying Republicans.
It's about ethics in bald-faced bigotry journalism.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 3:31pm
by matedog
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:47pm
matedog wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:19pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:11pm
matedog wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:07pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 11:54am
More so, he's currently charged with three counts of fraud and bribery, yet still wins election? It really is stunning what right-wing voters will tolerate in their candidates as long as they're sufficiently malicious.
That doesn't bode well for the US in 2020...
Apart from right-wing voter fraud or Democratic self-sabotage (which are both legit possibilities), I continue to believe Trump's re-election task is quite difficult. That 3M vote deficit from 2016 plus an angrier opposition plus more dead Boomers and more Millennial and Z voters.
Sounds like it is you who are the King of Wishful Thinking.
I fail to see how a guy who won by the fluke of the EC and has done nothing whatsoever to expand his voter base is in a good position to be re-elected. Absolutely nobody I've talked to has told me where he'll be getting new votes and/or how the Democrats' total will shrink.
Come on, we just talked about this

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 3:45pm
by Dr. Medulla
I get your pessimism, folks (believe me), but you really have to be defeatist to think that the electorate is more inclined to vote for him now than before. Do you really believe that there are hundreds of thousands of people who voted D last time or didn't vote at all that regret it and are champing at the bit to pull the lever for Trump? Polling does not suggest that at all. On the other hand, it's very plausible that there are voters who regret sitting it out or regret voting him him in '16. I swear, I'm not being pollyannaish here. I'm serious that I don't see where his base expands let alone significantly expands without some voter fraud or the Democrats eat their own candidate.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 5:30pm
by Flex
JennyB wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:19pm
I am really upset about this. So are all of my Israeli friends.
the israeli left just seems moribund. no idea what the solution is- really hard place to be in. i can't imagine how hard it is for folks in israel who feel like there's no way to push back.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 6:15pm
by Dr. Medulla
Flex wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 5:30pm
JennyB wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:19pm
I am really upset about this. So are all of my Israeli friends.
the israeli left just seems moribund. no idea what the solution is- really hard place to be in. i can't imagine how hard it is for folks in israel who feel like there's no way to push back.
It's that normalization of violence for people on both sides that is so heartbreaking. It takes on a momentum of its own beyond any kind of strategy or vision.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 1:30pm
by JennyB
Dr. Medulla wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 6:15pm
Flex wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 5:30pm
JennyB wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 2:19pm
I am really upset about this. So are all of my Israeli friends.
the israeli left just seems moribund. no idea what the solution is- really hard place to be in. i can't imagine how hard it is for folks in israel who feel like there's no way to push back.
It's that normalization of violence for people on both sides that is so heartbreaking. It takes on a momentum of its own beyond any kind of strategy or vision.
Yep on both.

Re: The Dictator observations thread.

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 2:12pm
by JennyB
Lovely people.