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Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 10:32am
by BostonBeaneater
Rat Patrol wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 9:39am


I do it every time for Steve Lynch because he's the most fucking useless "Fox News Democrat" in all of New England. I feel envious of my old precinct in Cambridge where Mike Capuano--a legit consistently progressive vote, albeit somewhat of an establishment player--got taken down from the left by a young-and-hungry Ayanna Pressley in the primary while this centrist concern-trolling stick in the mud goes completely unopposed year after fucking year. I'm not even sure Lynch would know what to do if he had an actual challenger except whine "No-fair!" about it, so can we please get some of that establishment-punching primary action in the Southie-to-South Shore district pretty please??? :disshame:
Lynch is a greasy grifter in the model of Finneran and Bulger. Look at how his district conveniently avoids anyone but White Irish Catholics. It tip toes around Blue Hill Ave. from Dorchester all the way out to Randolph (note Blue Hill Ave. is the heart of Black Boston).

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 10:37am
by Wolter
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:32am
Rat Patrol wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 9:39am


I do it every time for Steve Lynch because he's the most fucking useless "Fox News Democrat" in all of New England. I feel envious of my old precinct in Cambridge where Mike Capuano--a legit consistently progressive vote, albeit somewhat of an establishment player--got taken down from the left by a young-and-hungry Ayanna Pressley in the primary while this centrist concern-trolling stick in the mud goes completely unopposed year after fucking year. I'm not even sure Lynch would know what to do if he had an actual challenger except whine "No-fair!" about it, so can we please get some of that establishment-punching primary action in the Southie-to-South Shore district pretty please??? :disshame:
Lynch is a greasy grifter in the model of Finneran and Bulger. Look at how his district conveniently avoids anyone but White Irish Catholics. It tip toes around Blue Hill Ave. from Dorchester all the way out to Randolph (note Blue Hill Ave. is the heart of Black Boston).
That is some Illinois 4th District level gerrymandering.

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 10:43am
by JennyB
I wrote in my dog Scout for St. Louis County Council because a republican was running unopposed. In 2008, the guy to the left got 20 votes for Missouri State Auditor.

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 10:50am
by BostonBeaneater
Wolter wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:37am
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:32am
Rat Patrol wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 9:39am


I do it every time for Steve Lynch because he's the most fucking useless "Fox News Democrat" in all of New England. I feel envious of my old precinct in Cambridge where Mike Capuano--a legit consistently progressive vote, albeit somewhat of an establishment player--got taken down from the left by a young-and-hungry Ayanna Pressley in the primary while this centrist concern-trolling stick in the mud goes completely unopposed year after fucking year. I'm not even sure Lynch would know what to do if he had an actual challenger except whine "No-fair!" about it, so can we please get some of that establishment-punching primary action in the Southie-to-South Shore district pretty please??? :disshame:
Lynch is a greasy grifter in the model of Finneran and Bulger. Look at how his district conveniently avoids anyone but White Irish Catholics. It tip toes around Blue Hill Ave. from Dorchester all the way out to Randolph (note Blue Hill Ave. is the heart of Black Boston).
That is some Illinois 4th District level gerrymandering.
Well, we did sort of invent gerrymandering here. Here's a cartoon from 1812.

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Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 10:57am
by Silent Majority
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:50am
Wolter wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:37am
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:32am
Rat Patrol wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 9:39am


I do it every time for Steve Lynch because he's the most fucking useless "Fox News Democrat" in all of New England. I feel envious of my old precinct in Cambridge where Mike Capuano--a legit consistently progressive vote, albeit somewhat of an establishment player--got taken down from the left by a young-and-hungry Ayanna Pressley in the primary while this centrist concern-trolling stick in the mud goes completely unopposed year after fucking year. I'm not even sure Lynch would know what to do if he had an actual challenger except whine "No-fair!" about it, so can we please get some of that establishment-punching primary action in the Southie-to-South Shore district pretty please??? :disshame:
Lynch is a greasy grifter in the model of Finneran and Bulger. Look at how his district conveniently avoids anyone but White Irish Catholics. It tip toes around Blue Hill Ave. from Dorchester all the way out to Randolph (note Blue Hill Ave. is the heart of Black Boston).
That is some Illinois 4th District level gerrymandering.
Well, we did sort of invent gerrymandering here. Here's a cartoon from 1812.

Image
When the Irish do it, it's charming and twinkly eyed. I don't mind that at all.

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 10:59am
by WestwayKid
Wolter wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:37am
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:32am
Rat Patrol wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 9:39am


I do it every time for Steve Lynch because he's the most fucking useless "Fox News Democrat" in all of New England. I feel envious of my old precinct in Cambridge where Mike Capuano--a legit consistently progressive vote, albeit somewhat of an establishment player--got taken down from the left by a young-and-hungry Ayanna Pressley in the primary while this centrist concern-trolling stick in the mud goes completely unopposed year after fucking year. I'm not even sure Lynch would know what to do if he had an actual challenger except whine "No-fair!" about it, so can we please get some of that establishment-punching primary action in the Southie-to-South Shore district pretty please??? :disshame:
Lynch is a greasy grifter in the model of Finneran and Bulger. Look at how his district conveniently avoids anyone but White Irish Catholics. It tip toes around Blue Hill Ave. from Dorchester all the way out to Randolph (note Blue Hill Ave. is the heart of Black Boston).
That is some Illinois 4th District level gerrymandering.
We have this ancient white man who has ruled WI-5 for decades and decades...basically based in the affluent counties to the north of Milwaukee. I was knocking on doors in West Allis - which is a very working class suburb of Milwaukee this past weekend and was surprised that due to gerrymandering - this old white man was know their representative. They've taken the very blue WI-4 and condensed it down just to cover the city of Milwaukee itself. The northern suburbs have been given to the old white guy - who is bolstered by a solid core of red voters to the north and the southern suburbs (including mine) were given up to the horrid Paul Ryan - bolstered by the affluent counties to the southwest. It's really bad in Wisconsin. Democrats pretty much swept the night - except in the state legislature and the house - and I think a lot of that is because they've drawn the maps so they can't lose. Very frustrating.

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 10:59am
by WestwayKid
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:50am
Wolter wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:37am
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:32am
Rat Patrol wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 9:39am


I do it every time for Steve Lynch because he's the most fucking useless "Fox News Democrat" in all of New England. I feel envious of my old precinct in Cambridge where Mike Capuano--a legit consistently progressive vote, albeit somewhat of an establishment player--got taken down from the left by a young-and-hungry Ayanna Pressley in the primary while this centrist concern-trolling stick in the mud goes completely unopposed year after fucking year. I'm not even sure Lynch would know what to do if he had an actual challenger except whine "No-fair!" about it, so can we please get some of that establishment-punching primary action in the Southie-to-South Shore district pretty please??? :disshame:
Lynch is a greasy grifter in the model of Finneran and Bulger. Look at how his district conveniently avoids anyone but White Irish Catholics. It tip toes around Blue Hill Ave. from Dorchester all the way out to Randolph (note Blue Hill Ave. is the heart of Black Boston).
That is some Illinois 4th District level gerrymandering.
Well, we did sort of invent gerrymandering here. Here's a cartoon from 1812.

Image
You guys DID invent it! :mrgreen:

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 11:03am
by Dr. Medulla
It's a curious thing that American elections, from the beginning to the present, have been dominated by efforts to deny the vote or at least skew it to meaninglessness, whether thru gerrymandering, Jim Crow laws, voter id restrictions, and old fashioned goon work, yet Canada, still bound by the horseshit of monarchy, is a lot more straightforward. Not perfect by any means and with a history of all the above malignancies, but less of an active suppression of popular will than in the US.

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 11:38am
by BostonBeaneater
Silent Majority wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:57am


When the Irish do it, it's charming and twinkly eyed. I don't mind that at all.
Oh, I have to suspect Elbridge Gerry was one of yours.
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Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 11:46am
by WestwayKid
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 11:38am
Silent Majority wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 10:57am


When the Irish do it, it's charming and twinkly eyed. I don't mind that at all.
Oh, I have to suspect Elbridge Gerry was one of yours.
Image
Gerry was the first person to represent MA-3...but his successors (there were apparently 2 of them) have some of the best old time white folk names ever: Shearjashub Bourne and Peleg Coffin Jr.!

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 12:15pm
by BostonBeaneater
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 11:46am


Gerry was the first person to represent MA-3...but his successors (there were apparently 2 of them) have some of the best old time white folk names ever: Shearjashub Bourne and Peleg Coffin Jr.!
We have a wealthy history of crusty old white guys with stick up their ass names.
Here are a few:
Endicott Peabody
Leverett Saltonstall
Increase Sumner
Levi Lincoln Jr.
Tristram Dalton
Prentiss Mellen
Rufus Choate

He's a photograph of Rufus:
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Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 12:21pm
by Dr. Medulla
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 12:15pm
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 11:46am


Gerry was the first person to represent MA-3...but his successors (there were apparently 2 of them) have some of the best old time white folk names ever: Shearjashub Bourne and Peleg Coffin Jr.!
We have a wealthy history of crusty old white guys with stick up their ass names.
Here are a few:
Endicott Peabody
Leverett Saltonstall
Increase Sumner
Levi Lincoln Jr.
Tristram Dalton
Prentiss Mellen
Rufus Choate

He's a photograph of Rufus:
Image
When you're born into a name like that, you're destined to rape and/or murder a servant, and the worst thing that will happen is a minor scandal for being unseemly about it.

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 12:24pm
by WestwayKid
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 12:21pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 12:15pm
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 11:46am


Gerry was the first person to represent MA-3...but his successors (there were apparently 2 of them) have some of the best old time white folk names ever: Shearjashub Bourne and Peleg Coffin Jr.!
We have a wealthy history of crusty old white guys with stick up their ass names.
Here are a few:
Endicott Peabody
Leverett Saltonstall
Increase Sumner
Levi Lincoln Jr.
Tristram Dalton
Prentiss Mellen
Rufus Choate

He's a photograph of Rufus:
Image
When you're born into a name like that, you're destined to rape and/or murder a servant, and the worst thing that will happen is a minor scandal for being unseemly about it.
He looks like the kind of guy who would have enjoyed hitting young children with his walking stick and scrubbing his body until raw with a horsehair brush to maintain his vitality.

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 12:28pm
by WestwayKid
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 12:24pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 12:21pm
BostonBeaneater wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 12:15pm
WestwayKid wrote:
09 Nov 2018, 11:46am


Gerry was the first person to represent MA-3...but his successors (there were apparently 2 of them) have some of the best old time white folk names ever: Shearjashub Bourne and Peleg Coffin Jr.!
We have a wealthy history of crusty old white guys with stick up their ass names.
Here are a few:
Endicott Peabody
Leverett Saltonstall
Increase Sumner
Levi Lincoln Jr.
Tristram Dalton
Prentiss Mellen
Rufus Choate

He's a photograph of Rufus:
Image
When you're born into a name like that, you're destined to rape and/or murder a servant, and the worst thing that will happen is a minor scandal for being unseemly about it.
He looks like the kind of guy who would have enjoyed hitting young children with his walking stick and scrubbing his body until raw with a horsehair brush to maintain his vitality.
He also looks like someone who was in "failing health" for the final 2 decades of his life!

Re: The Election Thread To Talk About The Election

Posted: 09 Nov 2018, 12:35pm
by Wolter
I’m mildly offended that Beaneater would assume I, a man who loves both old cartoons and cartoonish corruption, wouldn’t know the origins of “gerrymander.” ;)