If Music Could Talk

Kory wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:30pm

Trying to get rid of Keys. The song is just so corny.

That's part of the charm for me.

Kory wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:30pm

Trying to get rid of Keys. The song is just so corny.

It'll get its … but not yet.

matedog wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:35pm

Kory wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:30pm

Trying to get rid of Keys. The song is just so corny.

That's part of the charm for me.

Hoylter?!?

Heston wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:32pm

BitterTom wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:27pm

Heston wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 3:25pm

Could have went with 3 of those but opted for Minstrel Boy. I don't know if it's down to the voting system but that isn't the greatest set of songs when you seem them all there. The BAD final was a much better line up.

Are we in the minority to prefer B.A.D to Meskies/Post Clash Joe?

Probably but I don't think it'll be a small minority.

I don't know. The impression I got was that more people participated in the BAD voting, but Joe generated more ardent advocacy for one song or another. My guess is that, gun to the head, the division would be pretty close to 50-50.

matedog wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:35pm

Kory wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:30pm

Trying to get rid of Keys. The song is just so corny.

That's part of the charm for me.

I honestly think it might be the best song up there for me. Top 3 certainly.

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:47pm

Heston wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:32pm

BitterTom wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:27pm

Heston wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 3:25pm

Could have went with 3 of those but opted for Minstrel Boy. I don't know if it's down to the voting system but that isn't the greatest set of songs when you seem them all there. The BAD final was a much better line up.

Are we in the minority to prefer B.A.D to Meskies/Post Clash Joe?

Probably but I don't think it'll be a small minority.

I don't know. The impression I got was that more people participated in the BAD voting, but Joe generated more ardent advocacy for one song or another. My guess is that, gun to the head, the division would be pretty close to 50-50.

I actually think more people prefer BAD on here but the Joe camp (mine) is more openly opinionated.

Wolter wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:46pm

matedog wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:35pm

Kory wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:30pm

Trying to get rid of Keys. The song is just so corny.

That's part of the charm for me.

Hoylter?!?

You hate Bhindi Baghee too?

matedog wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:50pm

Wolter wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:46pm

matedog wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:35pm

Kory wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:30pm

Trying to get rid of Keys. The song is just so corny.

That's part of the charm for me.

Hoylter?!?

You hate Bhindi Baghee too?

And back to normal.

BAD actually having a bunch of albums, all of which have been pretty easy to find on CD, vinyl or digitally for several decades, probably helps the voting. With Joe you have one solo full length that's mostly been OOP, 3 late-period (great) Meskies albums and then an assortment of hard-to-find shit of extremely variable style and quality. Say what you will about BAD, but they had an aesthetic and they stuck to it -and did the traditional "put out LPs full of material" thing - which makes it feel more like comparing apples to apples when you get to voting.

I love Joe's catalog (hence volunteering for the polling) but even I was having trouble sifting through all the four volumes of his soundtrack & comp work.

Also also, it strikes me we may be running into some polling fatigue. It's hard to muster up convo about the relative merits of various songs for like 3 months straight.

Wolter wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:50pm

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:47pm

Heston wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:32pm

BitterTom wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 4:27pm

Heston wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 3:25pm

Could have went with 3 of those but opted for Minstrel Boy. I don't know if it's down to the voting system but that isn't the greatest set of songs when you seem them all there. The BAD final was a much better line up.

Are we in the minority to prefer B.A.D to Meskies/Post Clash Joe?

Probably but I don't think it'll be a small minority.

I don't know. The impression I got was that more people participated in the BAD voting, but Joe generated more ardent advocacy for one song or another. My guess is that, gun to the head, the division would be pretty close to 50-50.

I actually think more people prefer BAD on here but the Joe camp (mine) is more openly opinionated.

Or at least more people secretly prefer BAD but think it's not as legitimate an heir to the Clash as what Joe did. Which, admittedly, might have some merit.

Flex wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 5:08pm

BAD actually having a bunch of albums, all of which have been pretty easy to find on CD, vinyl or digitally for several decades, probably helps the voting. With Joe you have one solo full length that's mostly been OOP, 3 late-period (great) Meskies albums and then an assortment of hard-to-find shit of extremely variable style and quality. Say what you will about BAD, but they had an aesthetic and they stuck to it -and did the traditional "put out LPs full of material" thing - which makes it feel more like comparing apples to apples when you get to voting.

I love Joe's catalog (hence volunteering for the polling) but even I was having trouble sifting through all the four volumes of his soundtrack & comp work.

Also also, it strikes me we may be running into some polling fatigue. It's hard to muster up convo about the relative merits of various songs for like 3 months straight.

I've thoroughly enjoying the polls and don't mind a little bickering here and there. The voting and conversation seems just as bountiful as the BAD polls.

Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 3:35pm

IH and MB are the only ones that stick out to me as not really worth serious consideration. All told, I think the group did a solid job in confirming the cream.

While the format plays it's tricks, MB and IH may not be worth serious consideration (although, subjectively speaking, I strongly disagree with that assertion) but it's not clear to me that they kingslayed anything more worthy from contention. EW and the Meskie's non-album tracks were both pretty scattershot affairs - even more so than something like Cut the Crap, as it turns out. It's a limitation of the format (I suppose), but it shouldn't really functionally prevent the best 3-5 songs from rising to the top.

In the end, i think every entry here is among Joe's best (even if not each one was my personal fave), so I have no complaints.

the HUGE limitation I see is that this format didn't allow Coma Girl to compete in the finals, since I think it could have finished second or third in voting despite losing by a few votes to GDM. Not sure any other songs have really been denied a shot at glory like that.

Or, GDM gets bounced in a few rounds and I revise that position, but given its traction I think GDM is going all the way.

Flex wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 5:18pm

the HUGE limitation I see is that this format didn't allow Coma Girl to compete in the finals, since I think it could have finished second or third in voting despite losing by a few votes to GDM. Not sure any other songs have really been denied a shot at glory like that.

I blame you for not shutting down the voting when it was tied. Or at least adhering to Stalin's advice that who votes isn't what counts, it's who counts the votes.

GDM is the best Strummer song. It will win.

Kory wrote: ↑

11 Jul 2019, 5:44pm

GDM is the best Strummer song. It will win.

It, Trash City, and Yalla Yalla would be my final three of what we have. I'd also be good with Trash City winning. It's the opposite of GDM in style and content, but perfectly done garage rock.