ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

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Vote for the song you like LEAST

Poll ended at 18 Jul 2019, 10:42am

Trash City
6
30%
Yalla Yalla
12
60%
Get Down Moses
2
10%
 
Total votes: 20

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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Marky Dread » 17 Jul 2019, 3:22pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:16pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:28pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:13pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:59pm


Low, low blow. :naughty:
...in peace and love. :mrgreen:
Hands to yourself, buster, I'm married. ;)
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Wolter » 17 Jul 2019, 3:24pm

Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:22pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:16pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:28pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:13pm


...in peace and love. :mrgreen:
Hands to yourself, buster, I'm married. ;)
Fine but my name's not buster. :mrgreen:
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No, this is.
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Heston » 17 Jul 2019, 3:25pm

Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:34pm
Heston wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:27pm
I've come around to Trash City a bit but was massively underwhelmed on release. VERY surprised it is going to make the last two.
Really good tune bloody awful mix.
Yeah but the tune is a lift of Do Wah Diddy Diddy by Manfred Mann. It's the great lyrics that elevate it a bit for me.
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Kory » 17 Jul 2019, 3:28pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:07pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:07pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 12:56pm
Wolter wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 11:54am
Honestly, I kind of wish Mick hadn’t gotten so locked into the BAD groove and had been more restless. But I’m also that outlier that thinks BAD is overall underwhelming after a fairly strong start.
The difference between the two perhaps throws into very sharp relief who the driving force of the Clash's experimentation was. Mick was obviously the tunesmith, but I wonder how much of it was Joe saying "let's do this one as a soca tune."
Maybe, but it's also possible that without Mick, Joe's "wilderness years" never ended. Which is to say, Mick grounded him and gave him a confidence that he had a harder time regaining afterwards.
I thought we had Anthony Genn to thank for that?
What do you mean by "that"?
Genn was the one that encouraged him to start the Mescaleros and end the wilderness years. Was Mick in there somewhere too?
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Dr. Medulla » 17 Jul 2019, 3:37pm

Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:07pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:07pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 12:56pm


The difference between the two perhaps throws into very sharp relief who the driving force of the Clash's experimentation was. Mick was obviously the tunesmith, but I wonder how much of it was Joe saying "let's do this one as a soca tune."
Maybe, but it's also possible that without Mick, Joe's "wilderness years" never ended. Which is to say, Mick grounded him and gave him a confidence that he had a harder time regaining afterwards.
I thought we had Anthony Genn to thank for that?
What do you mean by "that"?
Genn was the one that encouraged him to start the Mescaleros and end the wilderness years. Was Mick in there somewhere too?
Okay. What I meant about the wilderness years never ending (speculation and some semantic play, of course) is that the fact that the Mescaleros never had a clear sound from album to album could be interpreted as a continuation of Joe's constantly shifting interests during his wilderness years. I mean, you might be right and I'm seriously short-changing Joe's clarity of what he wanted to do and why. I'm just throwing out an alternative explanation that without Mick he just bounced around because he didn't quite know what he wanted.
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Marky Dread » 17 Jul 2019, 3:46pm

Heston wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:25pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:34pm
Heston wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:27pm
I've come around to Trash City a bit but was massively underwhelmed on release. VERY surprised it is going to make the last two.
Really good tune bloody awful mix.
Yeah but the tune is a lift of Do Wah Diddy Diddy by Manfred Mann. It's the great lyrics that elevate it a bit for me.
Yep very similar for sure. Agreed some fine lyrics. But that mix is plain awful. Just like EW.
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Marky Dread » 17 Jul 2019, 3:46pm

Wolter wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:24pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:22pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:16pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:28pm


Hands to yourself, buster, I'm married. ;)
Fine but my name's not buster. :mrgreen:
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This Is the stuff! :lol:
No, this is.
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Kory » 17 Jul 2019, 4:08pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:37pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 3:07pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 2:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 1:07pm


Maybe, but it's also possible that without Mick, Joe's "wilderness years" never ended. Which is to say, Mick grounded him and gave him a confidence that he had a harder time regaining afterwards.
I thought we had Anthony Genn to thank for that?
What do you mean by "that"?
Genn was the one that encouraged him to start the Mescaleros and end the wilderness years. Was Mick in there somewhere too?
Okay. What I meant about the wilderness years never ending (speculation and some semantic play, of course) is that the fact that the Mescaleros never had a clear sound from album to album could be interpreted as a continuation of Joe's constantly shifting interests during his wilderness years. I mean, you might be right and I'm seriously short-changing Joe's clarity of what he wanted to do and why. I'm just throwing out an alternative explanation that without Mick he just bounced around because he didn't quite know what he wanted.
Oh I see what you're saying, I think I read your initial post too literally. Yes, that seems entirely plausible too. We do have reports that Mick tended to be the one seeking out new musics while Joe was all over the vintage sounds, so it probably was a combo of two adventurous spirits on either end of the discipline spectrum.
Inder:
Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Silent Majority » 17 Jul 2019, 4:23pm

Joe was the one who wanted to do a rap first.
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by ohsoso » 17 Jul 2019, 4:53pm

Silent Majority wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 4:23pm
Joe was the one who wanted to do a rap first.
...and paul had his spoken word vibe.

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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Wolter » 17 Jul 2019, 6:00pm

Silent Majority wrote:
17 Jul 2019, 4:23pm
Joe was the one who wanted to do a rap first.
And did it better.
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Re: ROUND 19 - THE FINALS - V

Post by Marky Dread » 18 Jul 2019, 10:57am

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