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Re: New strummer release 2020

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BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
27 Jan 2020, 7:07pm
Marky Dread wrote:
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BR16ADE_R055E wrote:
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matedog wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 5:04pm
Cool. This is a different label than the one that did 001. Not sure what to expect.
If it’s 002, I hope Peter J. Moore doesn’t master it like he did on 001. I think he did a fine job of restoring tracks on 001, but a poor job mastering them. IMO, they are too loud/brickwalled to the point of distortion, most noticeable (w/o even wearing headphones) on “Trash City” and “Coma Girl.”
Agreed ...But then I know this bloke who can sort out these problems. ;)
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Re: New strummer release 2020

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laxman wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 4:51pm
https://www.1051wrfs.com/2020/01/24/geo ... e-records/

"Over 45 years after George Harrison first started the Dark Horse Records imprint, the label has a new lease on life. Dark Horse, now headed up by Harrison's son Dhani Harrison and manager David Zonshine, has announced a new multi-faceted global partnership with BMG. The agreement initially brings releases from the acclaimed catalog of Dark Horse Records and his Indian label imprint HariSongs, as well as Joe Strummer’s solo catalog, including his works alongside the Mescaleros."

"Available today (January 24th) on all digital platforms, the first slate of releases includes the George Harrison produced Ravi Shankar's Chants Of India; Ravi Shankar & Ali Akbar Khan In Concert 1972; and Attitudes – Ain't Love Enough: The Best Of The Attitudes. New titles on Dark Horse includes Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros’ albums Rock Art And The X-Ray Style, Global A Go-Go, and Streetcore. Upcoming releases in 2020 include compilations, live albums, and box sets featuring rare and unreleased recordings from the Dark Horse label — many of which will be made available digitally for the first time ever."

Not sure whether the final comments refer to Joe Strummer or to other bands.
To me it reads as they will be rereleasing the 3 Meskies albums. Additionally, they will be releasing unreleased stuff from artists on Dark Horse, which may or may not include the Meskies.

I've said this for awhile now, but I think there's a reason 001 did not include any original songs from the EW era. Someone else, perhaps Dark Horse, has the rights to that material...

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Re: New strummer release 2020

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msza2 wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 10:43am
laxman wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 4:51pm
https://www.1051wrfs.com/2020/01/24/geo ... e-records/

"Over 45 years after George Harrison first started the Dark Horse Records imprint, the label has a new lease on life. Dark Horse, now headed up by Harrison's son Dhani Harrison and manager David Zonshine, has announced a new multi-faceted global partnership with BMG. The agreement initially brings releases from the acclaimed catalog of Dark Horse Records and his Indian label imprint HariSongs, as well as Joe Strummer’s solo catalog, including his works alongside the Mescaleros."

"Available today (January 24th) on all digital platforms, the first slate of releases includes the George Harrison produced Ravi Shankar's Chants Of India; Ravi Shankar & Ali Akbar Khan In Concert 1972; and Attitudes – Ain't Love Enough: The Best Of The Attitudes. New titles on Dark Horse includes Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros’ albums Rock Art And The X-Ray Style, Global A Go-Go, and Streetcore. Upcoming releases in 2020 include compilations, live albums, and box sets featuring rare and unreleased recordings from the Dark Horse label — many of which will be made available digitally for the first time ever."

Not sure whether the final comments refer to Joe Strummer or to other bands.
To me it reads as they will be rereleasing the 3 Meskies albums. Additionally, they will be releasing unreleased stuff from artists on Dark Horse, which may or may not include the Meskies.

I've said this for awhile now, but I think there's a reason 001 did not include any original songs from the EW era. Someone else, perhaps Dark Horse, has the rights to that material...
Perhaps they will be extended albums and include the outtakes, demos etc..

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Re: New strummer release 2020

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101Walterton wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 4:29pm
msza2 wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 10:43am
laxman wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 4:51pm
https://www.1051wrfs.com/2020/01/24/geo ... e-records/

"Over 45 years after George Harrison first started the Dark Horse Records imprint, the label has a new lease on life. Dark Horse, now headed up by Harrison's son Dhani Harrison and manager David Zonshine, has announced a new multi-faceted global partnership with BMG. The agreement initially brings releases from the acclaimed catalog of Dark Horse Records and his Indian label imprint HariSongs, as well as Joe Strummer’s solo catalog, including his works alongside the Mescaleros."

"Available today (January 24th) on all digital platforms, the first slate of releases includes the George Harrison produced Ravi Shankar's Chants Of India; Ravi Shankar & Ali Akbar Khan In Concert 1972; and Attitudes – Ain't Love Enough: The Best Of The Attitudes. New titles on Dark Horse includes Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros’ albums Rock Art And The X-Ray Style, Global A Go-Go, and Streetcore. Upcoming releases in 2020 include compilations, live albums, and box sets featuring rare and unreleased recordings from the Dark Horse label — many of which will be made available digitally for the first time ever."

Not sure whether the final comments refer to Joe Strummer or to other bands.
To me it reads as they will be rereleasing the 3 Meskies albums. Additionally, they will be releasing unreleased stuff from artists on Dark Horse, which may or may not include the Meskies.

I've said this for awhile now, but I think there's a reason 001 did not include any original songs from the EW era. Someone else, perhaps Dark Horse, has the rights to that material...
Perhaps they will be extended albums and include the outtakes, demos etc..
Who would know ? Do we know anyone who would know ?

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Re: New strummer release 2020

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white man wrote:
01 Feb 2020, 7:55am
101Walterton wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 4:29pm
msza2 wrote:
31 Jan 2020, 10:43am
laxman wrote:
24 Jan 2020, 4:51pm
https://www.1051wrfs.com/2020/01/24/geo ... e-records/

"Over 45 years after George Harrison first started the Dark Horse Records imprint, the label has a new lease on life. Dark Horse, now headed up by Harrison's son Dhani Harrison and manager David Zonshine, has announced a new multi-faceted global partnership with BMG. The agreement initially brings releases from the acclaimed catalog of Dark Horse Records and his Indian label imprint HariSongs, as well as Joe Strummer’s solo catalog, including his works alongside the Mescaleros."

"Available today (January 24th) on all digital platforms, the first slate of releases includes the George Harrison produced Ravi Shankar's Chants Of India; Ravi Shankar & Ali Akbar Khan In Concert 1972; and Attitudes – Ain't Love Enough: The Best Of The Attitudes. New titles on Dark Horse includes Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros’ albums Rock Art And The X-Ray Style, Global A Go-Go, and Streetcore. Upcoming releases in 2020 include compilations, live albums, and box sets featuring rare and unreleased recordings from the Dark Horse label — many of which will be made available digitally for the first time ever."

Not sure whether the final comments refer to Joe Strummer or to other bands.
To me it reads as they will be rereleasing the 3 Meskies albums. Additionally, they will be releasing unreleased stuff from artists on Dark Horse, which may or may not include the Meskies.

I've said this for awhile now, but I think there's a reason 001 did not include any original songs from the EW era. Someone else, perhaps Dark Horse, has the rights to that material...
Perhaps they will be extended albums and include the outtakes, demos etc..
Who would know ? Do we know anyone who would know ?
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Um, yeah, EW is owned by Sony Music, or whatever corporate entity owns that. As I understand it, Sony Music also owns what was BMG, and the new BMG is a different company, but whatever.

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Um, yeah, EW is owned by Sony Music, or whatever corporate entity owns that. As I understand it, Sony Music also owns what was BMG, and the new BMG is a different company, but whatever.
I'd think Sony would license the EW material if someone wanted to release it on a comp?
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Re: New strummer release 2020

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WestwayKid wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 10:19am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
02 Feb 2020, 6:09pm
Um, yeah, EW is owned by Sony Music, or whatever corporate entity owns that. As I understand it, Sony Music also owns what was BMG, and the new BMG is a different company, but whatever.
I'd think Sony would license the EW material if someone wanted to release it on a comp?
Sony is particularly difficult with licensing. It could be that it was just too expensive to license something for 001, if not in terms of cash then whatever percentage may have been asked for, or that it was felt by Lucinda and company that it wasn’t worth it. The soundtracks Joe did are different contractually. EW was recorded under the revised Sony/Strummer/Clash (defined as anything Joe and Mick worked on together) deal that Gary Kurfirst negotiated for Joe. Later on, as Joe and Mick didn’t work together, Sony dropped Joe as a solo act but continued to regain rights to The Clash. Certainly the company lost a bundle on EW.

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Re: New strummer release 2020

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TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 5:35pm
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 10:19am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
02 Feb 2020, 6:09pm
Um, yeah, EW is owned by Sony Music, or whatever corporate entity owns that. As I understand it, Sony Music also owns what was BMG, and the new BMG is a different company, but whatever.
I'd think Sony would license the EW material if someone wanted to release it on a comp?
Sony is particularly difficult with licensing. It could be that it was just too expensive to license something for 001, if not in terms of cash then whatever percentage may have been asked for, or that it was felt by Lucinda and company that it wasn’t worth it. The soundtracks Joe did are different contractually. EW was recorded under the revised Sony/Strummer/Clash (defined as anything Joe and Mick worked on together) deal that Gary Kurfirst negotiated for Joe. Later on, as Joe and Mick didn’t work together, Sony dropped Joe as a solo act but continued to regain rights to The Clash. Certainly the company lost a bundle on EW.
Ride Your Donkey was used on 001, maybe as a token gesture to acknowledge EW, or something. So they have a foot in the door.
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Re: New strummer release 2020

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JohnS wrote:
05 Feb 2020, 8:23am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 5:35pm
WestwayKid wrote:
04 Feb 2020, 10:19am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
02 Feb 2020, 6:09pm
Um, yeah, EW is owned by Sony Music, or whatever corporate entity owns that. As I understand it, Sony Music also owns what was BMG, and the new BMG is a different company, but whatever.
I'd think Sony would license the EW material if someone wanted to release it on a comp?
Sony is particularly difficult with licensing. It could be that it was just too expensive to license something for 001, if not in terms of cash then whatever percentage may have been asked for, or that it was felt by Lucinda and company that it wasn’t worth it. The soundtracks Joe did are different contractually. EW was recorded under the revised Sony/Strummer/Clash (defined as anything Joe and Mick worked on together) deal that Gary Kurfirst negotiated for Joe. Later on, as Joe and Mick didn’t work together, Sony dropped Joe as a solo act but continued to regain rights to The Clash. Certainly the company lost a bundle on EW.
Ride Your Donkey was used on 001, maybe as a token gesture to acknowledge EW, or something. So they have a foot in the door.
A cover would have different rights though?
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Heston wrote:
05 Feb 2020, 8:40am
A cover would have different rights though?
Yeah, maybe that's why it was used. It was a weird choice for 001. But I'm sure Sony would still have some claim on the track since they owned the actual recording
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Re: New strummer release 2020

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JohnS wrote:
05 Feb 2020, 8:52am
Heston wrote:
05 Feb 2020, 8:40am
A cover would have different rights though?
But I'm sure Sony would still have some claim on the track since they owned the actual recording
Well, Sony gets a thanks on 001.

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