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Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 09 Sep 2022, 9:57pm
by appleseed1
Marky, by doing away with the wah-wah guitar solo in the edited Gangsterville track you've fulfilled a dream I've had since I first heard EW back in late '94. Thank you! I always was impressed by what a storming track it is, but then also aghast by how it goes off the rails with that goofy solo.
The original Earthquake Weather starts off like a western movie with Joe kicking open a couple of swinging doors to a saloon, striding in, beginning to kick serious ass, and then with that horrible solo suddenly putting on a clown nose and farting for some inexplicable reason. I hate it. This edit is perfect. I doubt I'll ever listen to it again now that I have this superb edit. Sony should release your entire work on the album as is.
I actually jumped because I was buzzing at how fantastic your edit is and wasn't ready to be ambushed by the sound of children boogying. Even your magic can't salvage that one, but you did good work on it, too.
I've had the Gangsterville edit on repeat for a 20 minutes now. Love it!
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 10 Sep 2022, 3:17am
by Marky Dread
appleseed1 wrote: ↑09 Sep 2022, 9:57pm
Marky, by doing away with the wah-wah guitar solo in the edited Gangsterville track you've fulfilled a dream I've had since I first heard EW back in late '94. Thank you! I always was impressed by what a storming track it is, but then also aghast by how it goes off the rails with that goofy solo.
The original Earthquake Weather starts off like a western movie with Joe kicking open a couple of swinging doors to a saloon, striding in, beginning to kick serious ass, and then with that horrible solo suddenly putting on a clown nose and farting for some inexplicable reason. I hate it. This edit is perfect. I doubt I'll ever listen to it again now that I have this superb edit. Sony should release your entire work on the album as is.
I actually jumped because I was buzzing at how fantastic your edit is and wasn't ready to be ambushed by the sound of children boogying. Even your magic can't salvage that one, but you did good work on it, too.
I've had the Gangsterville edit on repeat for a 20 minutes now. Love it!
Glad you enjoy it mate. I can't stand "Boogie with Your Children" and "Baby O'Boogie" both are plain awful. But sticking them on a B-side means at least they get included in the set.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 27 Oct 2022, 9:49am
by msza2
Here's an edit I made to Shouting Street using Marky's fantastic remaster to shorten the opening guitar solo.
https://mega.nz/file/zqxX1LQT#48hSB939n ... hDu4wn7rS8
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 27 Oct 2022, 9:59am
by Marky Dread
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 27 Oct 2022, 10:17am
by msza2
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 04 Nov 2022, 3:27pm
by Kory
The actual lineup of the LRW was quite different for EW than it was on Permanent Record (with the exception of Schloss bridging the gap), wasn't it? I wonder what EW might have turned out like if Joe had kept the original group.
Addendum: I may be the only person here who loves this album.
iRe: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 04 Nov 2022, 4:11pm
by Low Down Low
Kory wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 3:27pm
The actual lineup of the LRW was quite different for EW than it was on Permanent Record (with the exception of Schloss bridging the gap), wasn't it? I wonder what EW might have turned out like if Joe had kept the original group.
Addendum: I may be the only person here who loves this album.
Nope, definitely one or two of us about. I much prefer it to PR.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 04 Nov 2022, 5:35pm
by Marky Dread
Kory wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 3:27pm
The actual lineup of the LRW was quite different for EW than it was on Permanent Record (with the exception of Schloss bridging the gap), wasn't it? I wonder what EW might have turned out like if Joe had kept the original group.
Addendum: I may be the only person here who loves this album.
Willie MacNeil drums on both PR and EW. With Jack Irons also on some EW tracks. Both albums sessions were recorded at Baby 'O Recorders, LA.
I think I prefer PR over EW for the sound and production. Whilst I don't think either is great PR is mixed better because Zanders guitar is not so high in the mix and less intruding. His guitar sound spoils EW for me.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 04 Nov 2022, 6:57pm
by TrashCityRocker
Kory wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 3:27pm
The actual lineup of the LRW was quite different for EW than it was on Permanent Record (with the exception of Schloss bridging the gap), wasn't it? I wonder what EW might have turned out like if Joe had kept the original group.
Addendum: I may be the only person here who loves this album.
That’s probably why they didn’t bother adding “& the Latino Rockabilly War” on the cover of EW. The ‘Latino’ aspect of the band was missing without the presence of Poncho Sanchez and Ramon Banda, who backed up the percussion on PR. Tupelo Joe wasn’t on EW either, he actually did some of the guitar work for PR.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 04 Nov 2022, 7:35pm
by msza2
Kory wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 3:27pm
The actual lineup of the LRW was quite different for EW than it was on Permanent Record (with the exception of Schloss bridging the gap), wasn't it? I wonder what EW might have turned out like if Joe had kept the original group.
Addendum: I may be the only person here who loves this album.
I can't say I love it, but I like enough of it that I can make a really enjoyable playlist out of its parts.
Tier 1: Island Hopping, Shouting Streets, Ride Your Donkey, Sleepwalk
Tier 2: King of the Bayou, Leopardskin Limousines, Punk Rock Blues, 15th Brigade
Tier 3: Gangsterville, Dizzy's Goatee
Tier 4: the rest
Those top 3 tiers make a pretty solid album. My understanding is that Cholo Vest is actually from the Permanent Record sessions, but if I'm wrong then I'd put that one in T2.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 04 Nov 2022, 7:37pm
by msza2
TrashCityRocker wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 6:57pm
Kory wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 3:27pm
The actual lineup of the LRW was quite different for EW than it was on Permanent Record (with the exception of Schloss bridging the gap), wasn't it? I wonder what EW might have turned out like if Joe had kept the original group.
Addendum: I may be the only person here who loves this album.
That’s probably why they didn’t bother adding “& the Latino Rockabilly War” on the cover of EW. The ‘Latino’ aspect of the band was missing without the presence of Poncho Sanchez and Ramon Banda, who backed up the percussion on PR. Tupelo Joe wasn’t on EW either, he actually did some of the guitar work for PR.
Good point. I actually didn't realize the Latino presence was that strong in the first lineup.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 04 Nov 2022, 7:58pm
by Marky Dread
msza2 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 7:35pm
Kory wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 3:27pm
The actual lineup of the LRW was quite different for EW than it was on Permanent Record (with the exception of Schloss bridging the gap), wasn't it? I wonder what EW might have turned out like if Joe had kept the original group.
Addendum: I may be the only person here who loves this album.
I can't say I love it, but I like enough of it that I can make a really enjoyable playlist out of its parts.
Tier 1: Island Hopping, Shouting Streets, Ride Your Donkey, Sleepwalk
Tier 2: King of the Bayou, Leopardskin Limousines, Punk Rock Blues, 15th Brigade
Tier 3: Gangsterville, Dizzy's Goatee
Tier 4: the rest
Those top 3 tiers make a pretty solid album. My understanding is that Cholo Vest is actually from the Permanent Record sessions, but if I'm wrong then I'd put that one in T2.
Yes Chollo Vest was a PR outtake later used as a EW b-side.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 04 Nov 2022, 8:33pm
by msza2
Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Nov 2022, 7:58pm
Yes Chollo Vest was a PR outtake later used as a EW b-side.
Ah, thanks. No wonder I get it mixed up.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 05 Nov 2022, 10:28am
by TrashCityRocker
I remember having a small disagreement online with someone who claimed Cholo Vest was not “LRW” era material. They argued that it was released under just “Joe Strummer” and that PR, Trash City single, and RATR tour constitutes the LRW era. I argued it was an outtake from the PR sessions that was released a year later, and that it was even featured in the PR film. Some people you just can’t reason with lol
Also, I don’t know if you all knew this, but the end of the PR film features a more upbeat/uptempo mix of TFPR. In fact, the movie features alternate mixes of Baby The Trans and Nefertiti Rock too, but it’s mostly the vocals that seem to be different for Nefertiti and BTT. Just an FYI in case anybody cares.
Note: the files I attached are low bit rate rips from the movie, unfortunately I have no vocal remover software.
Re: Earthquake Weather remixed remaster.
Posted: 05 Nov 2022, 11:04am
by Marky Dread
TrashCityRocker wrote: ↑05 Nov 2022, 10:28am
I remember having a small disagreement online with someone who claimed Cholo Vest was not “LRW” era material. They argued that it was released under just “Joe Strummer” and that PR, Trash City single, and RATR tour constitutes the LRW era. I argued it was an outtake from the PR sessions that was released a year later, and that it was even featured in the PR film. Some people you just can’t reason with lol
Cholo Vest (Film Version).m4a
Also, I don’t know if you all knew this, but the end of the PR film features a more upbeat/uptempo mix of TFPR. In fact, the movie features alternate mixes of Baby The Trans and Nefertiti Rock too, but it’s mostly the vocals that seem to be different for Nefertiti and BTT. Just an FYI in case anybody cares.
Theme From Permanent Record (Alternate Mix).m4a
Note: the files I attached are low bit rate rips from the movie, unfortunately I have no vocal remover software.
There's also an intro at the start of the movie that's around 1:45 long. I've remixed the whole soundtrack for the box set I'm working on. Those clips you posted are not included as you can not remove all the background noise/talking cleanly.