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Thanks PatricE.
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No fuchsias for you.

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Many thanks for this. The piece with Scott is very interesting.

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Thanks PatricE. Some welcome insights from Mr Shields there
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Thank you PatricE, good reading.
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Good read. Thanks!
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Thanks for sharing!

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Thanks for sharing this! My favorite part is when Scott says, "Joe was sitting in this little room he built in the studio". So right until the end Joe still setting up the "spliff bunker" in the studio. Kind of shows that Scott was not a Clash fan after all. We would have known right away what that was! I can see it now complete with portable typewriter and boombox.

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Equaliser wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 1:55pm
Thanks for sharing this! My favorite part is when Scott says, "Joe was sitting in this little room he built in the studio". So right until the end Joe still setting up the "spliff bunker" in the studio. Kind of shows that Scott was not a Clash fan after all. We would have known right away what that was! I can see it now complete with portable typewriter and boombox.
A few years ago I went to a screening of 'Let's Rock Again' and afterwards there was a Q&A with Tymon Dogg and Scott Shields.
Someone asked for Scott's thoughts on the Acton gig where Mick Jones joined them onstage - I think we were all expecting a 'wow, what a privilege, a magical moment' sort of comment... but instead he chuckled and said that, actually, he was really pissed off at the time! He had no sense of the significance of the 'Strummer / Jones reunion' and was annoyed at one of Joe's pals inviting himself on from the wings and putting the band off their stride!
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That is hilarious! A very honest response as well. I also respect their wanting to not be a Clash cover band in general.

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Equaliser wrote:
22 Sep 2022, 3:52pm
That is hilarious! A very honest response as well. I also respect their wanting to not be a Clash cover band in general.
It seems like Joe was really being (internally) pulled in two directions. There must have been thousands of top-notch musicians who loved the Clash and would have lined up to play with him, yet he chose to work with a group of that didn't revere his former band's work...and then insisted on cramming his set lists full of his former band's work.

My guess is it was partly insecurity about how his new songs would be received, but I also think having a stable of crowd pleasers for the live set probably empowered him to feel like he could really stretch out with his new material.

One of the things I admire the most about Joe was that he was always moving forward. I think it's to his credit that he wanted to work with someone like Scott who didn't understand the Clash. When I was a teenager in the 90s, both punk and ska had a mainstream revival. He could have tried to seize the limelight with a throwback album to those styles, but instead he was getting down with electronic cumbia and spittin' Arabic over house beats. That's one reason why I love the Mescaleros so much.

Thanks for the article, PatricE

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I wonder if things would have continued if they would have dropped some of the more popular or well known clash tunes and dug a little deeper with stuff like “if music could talk”, “broadway”, “groovy times”, “Spanish bombs”, “street parade”, etc. I think some of that jazzy, acoustic, experimental stuff could have worked well into their sets and give a good counter & change of pace to some of the *rockier new stuff that was being promised during the streetcore sessions mixed with stalwarts from the first two albums (yalla, Appleseed, Tony adams, cool n out…)
*Martin told me & CK after one of the St. Ann’s gigs that they were firing up some hard rockers for the new album, got our hopes up real high only to have our wings clipped a short time later.

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