Without People You're Nothing

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Re: Without People You're Nothing

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;) ;)
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 3:08pm
VLADI wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 1:16pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 8:13pm
That's it.

I don't know how to thank you for all this effort, talent and generosity.

My gratitude is immense, I will always be grateful to you.

I love the artwoork, thanks Sparks.

Tonight I will start to enjoy it

Everything is perfect.
Long live Joe Strummer!!!

VIVA JOE
That Sparks guy is cool. Not as cool as Marky though. 😉
;) JAJA

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Wow, the Streetcore instrumentals are flooring me. I didn't even know they were circulating until a week or two ago when Marky mentioned he was preparing them for this, and even then I definitely didn't expect the unknown tracks. Holy shit, I almost shed a tear thinking about what might have been, especially hearing the background vocals.

Is there any more information out there about these?

Interesting that Guitar Slinger Man is missing. Given they were performing that one live, you'd think it'd have been one of the first they laid down in the studio.

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msza2 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 4:54pm
Wow, the Streetcore instrumentals are flooring me. I didn't even know they were circulating until a week or two ago when Marky mentioned he was preparing them for this, and even then I definitely didn't expect the unknown tracks. Holy shit, I almost shed a tear thinking about what might have been, especially hearing the background vocals.

Is there any more information out there about these?

Interesting that Guitar Slinger Man is missing. Given they were performing that one live, you'd think it'd have been one of the first they laid down in the studio.
Yeah I wish they could've got them down. Obviously the album is fleshed out by using the two Rick Rubin recordings. I couldn't find any other info on those instrumentals. One of the untitled tracks is possibly called "Steady America" and my guess is the one with the backing vocals. Laxman did find some info saying the band road tested that track live but I can't find any reference to it on the boots available or listings.
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Thanks Marky!! You've made us one of the best Christmas gift we can wish. I'm starting to listen the last cd because the Latino Rockabilly War with Roberto Pla and Willie MacNeil, it's the line-up i like more.
All the best!!!
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Stefano1972 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 5:12pm
Thanks Marky!! You've made us one of the best Christmas gift we can wish. I'm starting to listen the last cd because the Latino Rockabilly War with Roberto Pla and Willie MacNeil, it's the line-up i like more.
All the best!!!
Cheers Stefano enjoy mate.
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I'm Speechless!
Christmas and Record Store Day (digital format) all rolled into one.
Marky, you just keep upping your game and we are the beneficiaries.
Thank You!

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JChampion wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 5:27pm
I'm Speechless!
Christmas and Record Store Day (digital format) all rolled into one.
Marky, you just keep upping your game and we are the beneficiaries.
Thank You!
Cheers JC. The work on these sets is immense. I've just mentioned to laxman the lengths I go to just to remove a nano second of a glitch that affects play which can take hours of work.

But I'm pleased with the outcome. And it gives people here enjoyment to have something done with care. That's why it's a grab it while you can thing and not left up for ever.

Imagine having to buy this this from a record label they would charge the earth.
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Marky Dread wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 5:09pm
msza2 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 4:54pm
Wow, the Streetcore instrumentals are flooring me. I didn't even know they were circulating until a week or two ago when Marky mentioned he was preparing them for this, and even then I definitely didn't expect the unknown tracks. Holy shit, I almost shed a tear thinking about what might have been, especially hearing the background vocals.

Is there any more information out there about these?

Interesting that Guitar Slinger Man is missing. Given they were performing that one live, you'd think it'd have been one of the first they laid down in the studio.
Yeah I wish they could've got them down. Obviously the album is fleshed out by using the two Rick Rubin recordings. I couldn't find any other info on those instrumentals. One of the untitled tracks is possibly called "Steady America" and my guess is the one with the backing vocals. Laxman did find some info saying the band road tested that track live but I can't find any reference to it on the boots available or listings.
Did either of you happen to come across this article which mentions another song (a "reggae drug tune") called Bases Are Loaded? That could be one of the instrumentals as well, although neither are particularly reggae...

https://www.epitaph.com/news/article/th ... mescaleros

These instrumental tunes really bridge the gap between Global and Streetcore. It's hard to imagine CG, GDM, AA, etc fitting on Global but I could imagine any of these groovy, acoustic-ish tunes on there

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msza2 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 6:13pm
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 5:09pm
msza2 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 4:54pm
Wow, the Streetcore instrumentals are flooring me. I didn't even know they were circulating until a week or two ago when Marky mentioned he was preparing them for this, and even then I definitely didn't expect the unknown tracks. Holy shit, I almost shed a tear thinking about what might have been, especially hearing the background vocals.

Is there any more information out there about these?

Interesting that Guitar Slinger Man is missing. Given they were performing that one live, you'd think it'd have been one of the first they laid down in the studio.
Yeah I wish they could've got them down. Obviously the album is fleshed out by using the two Rick Rubin recordings. I couldn't find any other info on those instrumentals. One of the untitled tracks is possibly called "Steady America" and my guess is the one with the backing vocals. Laxman did find some info saying the band road tested that track live but I can't find any reference to it on the boots available or listings.
Did either of you happen to come across this article which mentions another song (a "reggae drug tune") called Bases Are Loaded? That could be one of the instrumentals as well, although neither are particularly reggae...

https://www.epitaph.com/news/article/th ... mescaleros

These instrumental tunes really bridge the gap between Global and Streetcore. It's hard to imagine CG, GDM, AA, etc fitting on Global but I could imagine any of these groovy, acoustic-ish tunes on there
Thanks and no, didn't spot that article.

The one I found was this; https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... 8TDduVyZHI

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msza2 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 6:13pm
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 5:09pm
msza2 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 4:54pm
Wow, the Streetcore instrumentals are flooring me. I didn't even know they were circulating until a week or two ago when Marky mentioned he was preparing them for this, and even then I definitely didn't expect the unknown tracks. Holy shit, I almost shed a tear thinking about what might have been, especially hearing the background vocals.

Is there any more information out there about these?

Interesting that Guitar Slinger Man is missing. Given they were performing that one live, you'd think it'd have been one of the first they laid down in the studio.
Yeah I wish they could've got them down. Obviously the album is fleshed out by using the two Rick Rubin recordings. I couldn't find any other info on those instrumentals. One of the untitled tracks is possibly called "Steady America" and my guess is the one with the backing vocals. Laxman did find some info saying the band road tested that track live but I can't find any reference to it on the boots available or listings.
Did either of you happen to come across this article which mentions another song (a "reggae drug tune") called Bases Are Loaded? That could be one of the instrumentals as well, although neither are particularly reggae...

https://www.epitaph.com/news/article/th ... mescaleros

These instrumental tunes really bridge the gap between Global and Streetcore. It's hard to imagine CG, GDM, AA, etc fitting on Global but I could imagine any of these groovy, acoustic-ish tunes on there
It shows where they were heading as a band and the next album would've been killer.
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Forces have been looting
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No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

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Not had a chance to listen yet, but those instrumentals are what really drew my eye. Appetite well and truly whetted!

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laxman wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 6:42pm
Thanks and no, didn't spot that article.

The one I found was this; https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... 8TDduVyZHI
Ah, interesting, thanks. It's curious Bases Are Loaded didn't get a mention in that one.

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Marky Dread wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 6:58pm
It shows where they were heading as a band and the next album would've been killer.
Absolutely.

Nice touch at the end. Very poignant.

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msza2 wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 7:47pm
Marky Dread wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 6:58pm
It shows where they were heading as a band and the next album would've been killer.
Absolutely.

Nice touch at the end. Very poignant.
Yeah I put that together it finishes of that disc nicely.
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Good grief, man! This When Pigs Fly disc sounds superb. You removed layers of gunk off these gems! I had to go to this disc first because I've always had a soft spot for that "lost album" I heard about forever and then only had the muddy songs that circulated on cassette for ages, but I revisited it often. Thanks so much for this incredible upgrade, Marky. The instrumentation is so distinct. The musicians Joe had backing him on these tracks have been written off before as sort of middle of the road, but I think this remaster proves that they acquitted themselves well.

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