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Re: Strummservations

Post by Inder » 15 Oct 2019, 3:02pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:32pm

Ah, so it's basically a physical issue. Gotcha.
I believe there's a pill for that.

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Re: Strummservations

Post by Marky Dread » 15 Oct 2019, 3:06pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:32pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:26pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 1:40pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 12:44pm
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14 Oct 2019, 5:04pm
Been eyeing up a vinyl copy of the Acton Firefighters gig in my local music shop. Very expensive plus I already the CD but still tempted, anyone got it or heard it?
Does it include all the acts or just Meskies?
I'll say this only. Vinyl bootlegs rarely sound better than their CD counterparts.
Even Neil Young boots?

More seriously, why is that?
The Simple answer is that the majority of bootlegs end up being rushed pressings with poor quality vinyl.
Ah, so it's basically a physical issue. Gotcha.
Primarily but also a production issue. A lot of pressings are done very cheaply and the cutting equipment not up to the standard of the major players. Others are put out from the same pressing plant as the major players but done on the quiet and rushed out to make someone a quick buck.

They are getting better over the years with more vinyl being pressed now than for some time. With decent private pressing plants able to knock out a few hundred copies for around £500 - £1000 with bespoke sleeves etc. However the source material is a sticking point with copyright.
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Re: Strummservations

Post by 101Walterton » 15 Oct 2019, 3:11pm

Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:06pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:32pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:26pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 1:40pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 12:44pm


I'll say this only. Vinyl bootlegs rarely sound better than their CD counterparts.
Even Neil Young boots?

More seriously, why is that?
The Simple answer is that the majority of bootlegs end up being rushed pressings with poor quality vinyl.
Ah, so it's basically a physical issue. Gotcha.
Primarily but also a production issue. A lot of pressings are done very cheaply and the cutting equipment not up to the standard of the major players. Others are put out from the same pressing plant as the major players but done on the quiet and rushed out to make someone a quick buck.

They are getting better over the years with more vinyl being pressed now than for some time. With decent private pressing plants able to knock out a few hundred copies for around £500 - £1000 with bespoke sleeves etc. However the source material is a sticking point with copyright.
This one is on 2 x 10” which would indicate a little more effort went into it? Having said that the cover is barely minimal.

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Re: Strummservations

Post by Marky Dread » 15 Oct 2019, 3:23pm

101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:06pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:32pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:26pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 1:40pm


Even Neil Young boots?

More seriously, why is that?
The Simple answer is that the majority of bootlegs end up being rushed pressings with poor quality vinyl.
Ah, so it's basically a physical issue. Gotcha.
Primarily but also a production issue. A lot of pressings are done very cheaply and the cutting equipment not up to the standard of the major players. Others are put out from the same pressing plant as the major players but done on the quiet and rushed out to make someone a quick buck.

They are getting better over the years with more vinyl being pressed now than for some time. With decent private pressing plants able to knock out a few hundred copies for around £500 - £1000 with bespoke sleeves etc. However the source material is a sticking point with copyright.
This one is on 2 x 10” which would indicate a little more effort went into it? Having said that the cover is barely minimal.
Effort maybe but a gimmick definitely for the collector. If you think about that Specials reissue half speed master on two 12" vinyls that I mentioned having bigger grooves for better sound. Then this 10" with more grooves crammed into less space will be the exact opposite.
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Re: Strummservations

Post by 101Walterton » 15 Oct 2019, 4:23pm

Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:06pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:32pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:26pm


The Simple answer is that the majority of bootlegs end up being rushed pressings with poor quality vinyl.
Ah, so it's basically a physical issue. Gotcha.
Primarily but also a production issue. A lot of pressings are done very cheaply and the cutting equipment not up to the standard of the major players. Others are put out from the same pressing plant as the major players but done on the quiet and rushed out to make someone a quick buck.

They are getting better over the years with more vinyl being pressed now than for some time. With decent private pressing plants able to knock out a few hundred copies for around £500 - £1000 with bespoke sleeves etc. However the source material is a sticking point with copyright.
This one is on 2 x 10” which would indicate a little more effort went into it? Having said that the cover is barely minimal.
Effort maybe but a gimmick definitely for the collector. If you think about that Specials reissue half speed master on two 12" vinyls that I mentioned having bigger grooves for better sound. Then this 10" with more grooves crammed into less space will be the exact opposite.
True.
Going back to my original question I am not sure how many tracks are on the album as it doesn’t say on cover art. But from memory the Meskies alone played a full set plus the encore with Mick and speeches etc. the cover write up also mentions comedians??

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Re: Strummservations

Post by Marky Dread » 15 Oct 2019, 5:46pm

101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 4:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:06pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 2:32pm


Ah, so it's basically a physical issue. Gotcha.
Primarily but also a production issue. A lot of pressings are done very cheaply and the cutting equipment not up to the standard of the major players. Others are put out from the same pressing plant as the major players but done on the quiet and rushed out to make someone a quick buck.

They are getting better over the years with more vinyl being pressed now than for some time. With decent private pressing plants able to knock out a few hundred copies for around £500 - £1000 with bespoke sleeves etc. However the source material is a sticking point with copyright.
This one is on 2 x 10” which would indicate a little more effort went into it? Having said that the cover is barely minimal.
Effort maybe but a gimmick definitely for the collector. If you think about that Specials reissue half speed master on two 12" vinyls that I mentioned having bigger grooves for better sound. Then this 10" with more grooves crammed into less space will be the exact opposite.
True.
Going back to my original question I am not sure how many tracks are on the album as it doesn’t say on cover art. But from memory the Meskies alone played a full set plus the encore with Mick and speeches etc. the cover write up also mentions comedians??
Wait a minute here you are talking about the Acton gig that was officially released by Epitaph in 2017. Not a bootleg. That has 16 tracks the same as the bootleg CD.

The sound will also be crisp as it's an official release mate.
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Re: Strummservations

Post by 101Walterton » 15 Oct 2019, 7:48pm

Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 5:46pm
101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 4:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:11pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:06pm


Primarily but also a production issue. A lot of pressings are done very cheaply and the cutting equipment not up to the standard of the major players. Others are put out from the same pressing plant as the major players but done on the quiet and rushed out to make someone a quick buck.

They are getting better over the years with more vinyl being pressed now than for some time. With decent private pressing plants able to knock out a few hundred copies for around £500 - £1000 with bespoke sleeves etc. However the source material is a sticking point with copyright.
This one is on 2 x 10” which would indicate a little more effort went into it? Having said that the cover is barely minimal.
Effort maybe but a gimmick definitely for the collector. If you think about that Specials reissue half speed master on two 12" vinyls that I mentioned having bigger grooves for better sound. Then this 10" with more grooves crammed into less space will be the exact opposite.
True.
Going back to my original question I am not sure how many tracks are on the album as it doesn’t say on cover art. But from memory the Meskies alone played a full set plus the encore with Mick and speeches etc. the cover write up also mentions comedians??
Wait a minute here you are talking about the Acton gig that was officially released by Epitaph in 2017. Not a bootleg. That has 16 tracks the same as the bootleg CD.

The sound will also be crisp as it's an official release mate.
It is the Fireman’s benefit concert just not sure if the official Epitaph as not much detail on cover and vinyl behind counter. Will have a look next time.

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Re: Strummservations

Post by Marky Dread » 16 Oct 2019, 4:41am

101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 7:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 5:46pm
101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 4:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:23pm
101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:11pm


This one is on 2 x 10” which would indicate a little more effort went into it? Having said that the cover is barely minimal.
Effort maybe but a gimmick definitely for the collector. If you think about that Specials reissue half speed master on two 12" vinyls that I mentioned having bigger grooves for better sound. Then this 10" with more grooves crammed into less space will be the exact opposite.
True.
Going back to my original question I am not sure how many tracks are on the album as it doesn’t say on cover art. But from memory the Meskies alone played a full set plus the encore with Mick and speeches etc. the cover write up also mentions comedians??
Wait a minute here you are talking about the Acton gig that was officially released by Epitaph in 2017. Not a bootleg. That has 16 tracks the same as the bootleg CD.

The sound will also be crisp as it's an official release mate.
It is the Fireman’s benefit concert just not sure if the official Epitaph as not much detail on cover and vinyl behind counter. Will have a look next time.
It's made to look like a bootleg. With an insert of just black and white with a pic of Joe sitting down with guitar.
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Re: Strummservations

Post by 101Walterton » 16 Oct 2019, 5:47am

Marky Dread wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 4:41am
101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 7:48pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 5:46pm
101Walterton wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 4:23pm
Marky Dread wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 3:23pm


Effort maybe but a gimmick definitely for the collector. If you think about that Specials reissue half speed master on two 12" vinyls that I mentioned having bigger grooves for better sound. Then this 10" with more grooves crammed into less space will be the exact opposite.
True.
Going back to my original question I am not sure how many tracks are on the album as it doesn’t say on cover art. But from memory the Meskies alone played a full set plus the encore with Mick and speeches etc. the cover write up also mentions comedians??
Wait a minute here you are talking about the Acton gig that was officially released by Epitaph in 2017. Not a bootleg. That has 16 tracks the same as the bootleg CD.

The sound will also be crisp as it's an official release mate.
It is the Fireman’s benefit concert just not sure if the official Epitaph as not much detail on cover and vinyl behind counter. Will have a look next time.
It's made to look like a bootleg. With an insert of just black and white with a pic of Joe sitting down with guitar.
That’s the one yes.

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Re: Strummservations

Post by Dr. Medulla » 23 Oct 2019, 3:55pm

Tangentially related stuff, but Tim Robbins talks about hanging out with people on the set of Straight to Hell: https://film.avclub.com/tim-robbins-on- ... 1839041976
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