Unreleased Joe stuff

[muppet hi fi]

TeddyB knows ask him.

No, not yet! Let's try to figure this out ourselves first!
OK - on LK, could be Walter Lure? And DDC, maybe Chris Spedding? Over to you mate...

You're reading into this too much.

Oh for sure I am. So who's the guitar player/s on the songs? :D

A relatively unknown guitar player of some repute called Bill Carter.

Oh really? Now we're getting somewhere, as Joe and Bill knew each other and were going to form a band together before the Clash while the 101ers were still working and before Motor Boys Motor and the SBMs. Good call mate!

[Marky Dread]

No, not yet! Let's try to figure this out ourselves first!
OK - on LK, could be Walter Lure? And DDC, maybe Chris Spedding? Over to you mate...

You're reading into this too much.

Oh for sure I am. So who's the guitar player/s on the songs? :D

A relatively unknown guitar player of some repute called Bill Carter.

Oh really? Now we're getting somewhere, as Joe and Bill knew each other and were going to form a band together before the Clash while the 101ers were still working and before Motor Boys Motor and the SBMs. Good call mate!

The demo tape of "The Squatting Bald Eagles" is crap.

[muppet hi fi]

You're reading into this too much.

Oh for sure I am. So who's the guitar player/s on the songs? :D

A relatively unknown guitar player of some repute called Bill Carter.

Oh really? Now we're getting somewhere, as Joe and Bill knew each other and were going to form a band together before the Clash while the 101ers were still working and before Motor Boys Motor and the SBMs. Good call mate!

The demo tape of "The Squatting Bald Eagles" is crap.

Yeah but it could have been great if they'd got, say, Sandy Pearlman or even better yet Roy Thomas-Baker to produce it!

[Marky Dread]

Oh for sure I am. So who's the guitar player/s on the songs? :D

A relatively unknown guitar player of some repute called Bill Carter.

Oh really? Now we're getting somewhere, as Joe and Bill knew each other and were going to form a band together before the Clash while the 101ers were still working and before Motor Boys Motor and the SBMs. Good call mate!

The demo tape of "The Squatting Bald Eagles" is crap.

Yeah but it could have been great if they'd got, say, Sandy Pearlman or even better yet Roy Thomas-Baker to produce it!

Might as well have got Ron Pearlman and Ma Baker to produce it!

[Marky Dread]

Chris Lord-Alge has a reputation for mixing stuff loud so maybe it has something to do with that.

[muppet hi fi]

Chris Lord-Alge has a reputation for mixing stuff loud so maybe it has something to do with that.

Yeah I'm familiar with Lord-Age's work (how could I not be?). But who the hell is playing, especially on Dum Dum Club? That's some really cool playing.
Nothing on the internets I can find, so yeah if TeddyB see's this and knows something, cool. I'd just always assumed it was Mick, and maybe Joe on the rhythm guitar on DDC.
Big mystery, must be solved, DCT and all that

[Marky Dread]

Chris Lord-Alge has a reputation for mixing stuff loud so maybe it has something to do with that.

Yeah I'm familiar with Lord-Age's work (how could I not be?). But who the hell is playing, especially on Dum Dum Club? That's some really cool playing.
Nothing on the internets I can find, so yeah if TeddyB see's this and knows something, cool. I'd just always assumed it was Mick, and maybe Joe on the rhythm guitar on DDC.
Big mystery, must be solved, DCT and all that

Mick is on it but he's mixed really low in the mix.

Drums - Chris Musto (uncredited)
Guitar/additional guitar - Mick Jones (uncredited)
Vocals/guitar (uncredited) - Joe Strummer
Producer - Joe Strummer
Remixed - Chris Lord-Alge
Engineer - Simon Sullivan
Mastered - Tim Young

Recorded at Regents Park recording studios, Primrose Hill, London, UK.

[muppet hi fi]

Chris Lord-Alge has a reputation for mixing stuff loud so maybe it has something to do with that.

Yeah I'm familiar with Lord-Age's work (how could I not be?). But who the hell is playing, especially on Dum Dum Club? That's some really cool playing.
Nothing on the internets I can find, so yeah if TeddyB see's this and knows something, cool. I'd just always assumed it was Mick, and maybe Joe on the rhythm guitar on DDC.
Big mystery, must be solved, DCT and all that

Mick is on it but he's mixed really low in the mix.

Drums - Chris Musto (uncredited)
Guitar/additional guitar - Mick Jones (uncredited)
Vocals/guitar (uncredited) - Joe Strummer
Producer - Joe Strummer
Remixed - Chris Lord-Alge
Engineer - Simon Sullivan
Mastered - Tim Young

Recorded at Regents Park recording studios, Primrose Hill, London, UK.

OK cheers Marky. Chris "Mustapho" Musto I know from Johnny Thunder's last band, the Oddballs, in the late '80s. Who played bass on the two songs? (not that it's anything to write home about).
So Joe and Mick are playing on both tunes? Surely sounds like it could be, and that's why I'm so interested in these two songs, as they've got the heavy crunch that Latino Rockabilly War lacked and for that matter the Mescaleros did as well.
btw - are these credits for both Love Kills and Dum Dum Club?

[Marky Dread]

Chris Lord-Alge has a reputation for mixing stuff loud so maybe it has something to do with that.

Yeah I'm familiar with Lord-Age's work (how could I not be?). But who the hell is playing, especially on Dum Dum Club? That's some really cool playing.
Nothing on the internets I can find, so yeah if TeddyB see's this and knows something, cool. I'd just always assumed it was Mick, and maybe Joe on the rhythm guitar on DDC.
Big mystery, must be solved, DCT and all that

Mick is on it but he's mixed really low in the mix.

Drums - Chris Musto (uncredited)
Guitar/additional guitar - Mick Jones (uncredited)
Vocals/guitar (uncredited) - Joe Strummer
Producer - Joe Strummer
Remixed - Chris Lord-Alge
Engineer - Simon Sullivan
Mastered - Tim Young

Recorded at Regents Park recording studios, Primrose Hill, London, UK.

OK cheers Marky. Chris "Mustapho" Musto I know from Johnny Thunder's last band, the Oddballs, in the late '80s. Who played bass on the two songs? (not that it's anything to write home about).
So Joe and Mick are playing on both tunes? Surely sounds like it could be, and that's why I'm so interested in these two songs, as they've got the heavy crunch that Latino Rockabilly War lacked and for that matter the Mescaleros did as well.
btw - are these credits for both Love Kills and Dum Dum Club?

To my knowledge yes I believe so. TeddyB will know much more than I. I don't know who plays bass but I expect it was either Mick or Joe they should've got Matlock to do it as he lives in London and he also played on the Sid & Nancy soundtrack on the two Gary Oldman tracks. Matlock was also in the Oddballs with Musto and the two have played together in The Philistines. Mick also played on The Philistines Open Mind album. I can't find any more info regards the session or if anything else was attempted.

Calling TeddyB.

[biopunk]

Chris Lord-Alge has a reputation for mixing stuff loud so maybe it has something to do with that.

Yeah I'm familiar with Lord-Age's work (how could I not be?). But who the hell is playing, especially on Dum Dum Club? That's some really cool playing.
Nothing on the internets I can find, so yeah if TeddyB see's this and knows something, cool. I'd just always assumed it was Mick, and maybe Joe on the rhythm guitar on DDC.
Big mystery, must be solved, DCT and all that

Mick is on it but he's mixed really low in the mix.

Drums - Chris Musto (uncredited)
Guitar/additional guitar - Mick Jones (uncredited)
Vocals/guitar (uncredited) - Joe Strummer
Producer - Joe Strummer
Remixed - Chris Lord-Alge
Engineer - Simon Sullivan
Mastered - Tim Young

Recorded at Regents Park recording studios, Primrose Hill, London, UK.

OK cheers Marky. Chris "Mustapho" Musto I know from Johnny Thunder's last band, the Oddballs, in the late '80s. Who played bass on the two songs? (not that it's anything to write home about).
So Joe and Mick are playing on both tunes? Surely sounds like it could be, and that's why I'm so interested in these two songs, as they've got the heavy crunch that Latino Rockabilly War lacked and for that matter the Mescaleros did as well.
btw - are these credits for both Love Kills and Dum Dum Club?

To my knowledge yes I believe so. TeddyB will know much more than I. I don't know who plays bass but I expect it was either Mick or Joe they should've got Matlock to do it as he lives in London and he also played on the Sid & Nancy soundtrack on the two Gary Oldman tracks. Matlock was also in the Oddballs with Musto and the two have played together in The Philistines. Mick also played on The Philistines Open Mind album. I can't find any more info regards the session or if anything else was attempted.

Calling TeddyB.

Mervyn "Muff" Winwood or Tina Weymouth.

[Heston]

Who's playing the harmonica? Is that Mick as well?

[Marky Dread]

Who's playing the harmonica? Is that Mick as well?

Bob Jones.

[NoMoreHugh]

Cut the crap has better songs even if it is plagued with bad production but at least it is presented in an exciting way which is what i would expect from Joe Strummer solo stuff as well.
I would have been really happy with an album that sounded like dum dum club.
Joe Strummer is a great front man in fact the best front man of any band ever, he represented adrenalin,excitement, eventful and unforgetable . No pissing about straight to the guts of everything he did. I didnt expect Donkey music from him.

Having said all that i do kind of like the songs but only because i forced myself to like it over many years of listening , but only gave the time because it was Joe Strummer not because the music was good. Any other singer would not have got my attention in the same way and would have been rejected on first listen as there is too much good music around to waste time on sub standard stuff.

Joe isnt a good song writer in my opinion and that has been reflecrted on most of his post clash career but he does have flashes of greatness. He needs a good consistent writer to do the songs for hm and then he could have been best in the world - oh yeah he did have that !

Joe Strummer the lead man of the most happening band who made me get out my seat and pace up and around the room with excitement feeling like the whole world needs to hear the clash right now and today then ends up producing this album - Donkey Music !

But what exactly were you expecting? Cut the Crap vol 2

[Heston]

Can I just ask, what is "donkey music?"

[Dr. Medulla]

Can I just ask, what is "donkey music?"

Pleasedon'tbethesoundtrackofadonkeyshow, pleasedon'tbethesoundtrackofadonkeyshow, pleasedon'tbethesoundtrackofadonkeyshow.