Annoying because they are not free?APACHES67 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 3:36amIndeed. kinolibrary is really annoying, just like Getty ImagesMarky Dread wrote: ↑22 Apr 2023, 12:23pmDeliberately to entice someone to pay for usage. Nice to know the film footage exist though.
The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
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Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
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Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
Of Course...they annoy me because they want Money For videos and photosMarky Dread wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 4:33amAnnoying because they are not free?APACHES67 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 3:36amIndeed. kinolibrary is really annoying, just like Getty ImagesMarky Dread wrote: ↑22 Apr 2023, 12:23pmDeliberately to entice someone to pay for usage. Nice to know the film footage exist though.
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
Are we getting annoyed with Kino or the rightsholders. Surely Kino are just a platform for the likes of Letts and Temple to advertise their spoils.APACHES67 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 6:07pmOf Course...they annoy me because they want Money For videos and photosMarky Dread wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 4:33amAnnoying because they are not free?APACHES67 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 3:36amIndeed. kinolibrary is really annoying, just like Getty ImagesMarky Dread wrote: ↑22 Apr 2023, 12:23pmDeliberately to entice someone to pay for usage. Nice to know the film footage exist though.
I have no problem with these blokes making money out of their endeavours, but the avenue for them to release their stuff need to be there. I'm sure Don was aching for the Bonds stuff to be put out there on the anniversary but he was being told it was a no-go.
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I really wish I'd charged you all for my remasters now. I have no problem with people making their money either. You don't get much for free these days. Unless you know a sucker called Marky.white man wrote: ↑24 Apr 2023, 2:40amAre we getting annoyed with Kino or the rightsholders. Surely Kino are just a platform for the likes of Letts and Temple to advertise their spoils.APACHES67 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 6:07pmOf Course...they annoy me because they want Money For videos and photosMarky Dread wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 4:33amAnnoying because they are not free?APACHES67 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2023, 3:36amIndeed. kinolibrary is really annoying, just like Getty ImagesMarky Dread wrote: ↑22 Apr 2023, 12:23pm
Deliberately to entice someone to pay for usage. Nice to know the film footage exist though.
I have no problem with these blokes making money out of their endeavours, but the avenue for them to release their stuff need to be there. I'm sure Don was aching for the Bonds stuff to be put out there on the anniversary but he was being told it was a no-go.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
Marky Dread wrote: ↑24 Apr 2023, 8:20amI really wish I'd charged you all for my remasters now. I have no problem with people making their money either. You don't get much for free these days. Unless you know a sucker called Marky.white man wrote: ↑24 Apr 2023, 2:40amAre we getting annoyed with Kino or the rightsholders. Surely Kino are just a platform for the likes of Letts and Temple to advertise their spoils.
I have no problem with these blokes making money out of their endeavours, but the avenue for them to release their stuff need to be there. I'm sure Don was aching for the Bonds stuff to be put out there on the anniversary but he was being told it was a no-go.
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
I did email Kino asking if we could purchase their clips and full concerts were available. I got a response basically saying they only license the footage (which we already knew, but I figured I'd try) and asked me about "my project."
I'm trying to think if I were Don or Temple what I'd want with this footage. It does appear to get licensed every ten years or so. I'm thinking the "official" WMHP video and obviously the footage Temple used in his own film. I guess that's better than getting zero licensing money. It's a bit of a bummer though since we are probably never going to get fuller clips or shows. One option would be similar to what I proposed for the band's audio recordings which would be to make them available for purchase via Nugs or something similar as they do have video recordings there. Not sure how that would work between Don's rights and the band's/record company's.
I'm trying to think if I were Don or Temple what I'd want with this footage. It does appear to get licensed every ten years or so. I'm thinking the "official" WMHP video and obviously the footage Temple used in his own film. I guess that's better than getting zero licensing money. It's a bit of a bummer though since we are probably never going to get fuller clips or shows. One option would be similar to what I proposed for the band's audio recordings which would be to make them available for purchase via Nugs or something similar as they do have video recordings there. Not sure how that would work between Don's rights and the band's/record company's.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
Money is an abomination.matedog wrote: ↑24 Apr 2023, 11:44amI did email Kino asking if we could purchase their clips and full concerts were available. I got a response basically saying they only license the footage (which we already knew, but I figured I'd try) and asked me about "my project."
I'm trying to think if I were Don or Temple what I'd want with this footage. It does appear to get licensed every ten years or so. I'm thinking the "official" WMHP video and obviously the footage Temple used in his own film. I guess that's better than getting zero licensing money. It's a bit of a bummer though since we are probably never going to get fuller clips or shows. One option would be similar to what I proposed for the band's audio recordings which would be to make them available for purchase via Nugs or something similar as they do have video recordings there. Not sure how that would work between Don's rights and the band's/record company's.
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Money is not our God!Kory wrote: ↑24 Apr 2023, 5:06pmMoney is an abomination.matedog wrote: ↑24 Apr 2023, 11:44amI did email Kino asking if we could purchase their clips and full concerts were available. I got a response basically saying they only license the footage (which we already knew, but I figured I'd try) and asked me about "my project."
I'm trying to think if I were Don or Temple what I'd want with this footage. It does appear to get licensed every ten years or so. I'm thinking the "official" WMHP video and obviously the footage Temple used in his own film. I guess that's better than getting zero licensing money. It's a bit of a bummer though since we are probably never going to get fuller clips or shows. One option would be similar to what I proposed for the band's audio recordings which would be to make them available for purchase via Nugs or something similar as they do have video recordings there. Not sure how that would work between Don's rights and the band's/record company's.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
Don't think the record company are the problem here. It's been alluded to by Teddy.matedog wrote: ↑24 Apr 2023, 11:44amI did email Kino asking if we could purchase their clips and full concerts were available. I got a response basically saying they only license the footage (which we already knew, but I figured I'd try) and asked me about "my project."
I'm trying to think if I were Don or Temple what I'd want with this footage. It does appear to get licensed every ten years or so. I'm thinking the "official" WMHP video and obviously the footage Temple used in his own film. I guess that's better than getting zero licensing money. It's a bit of a bummer though since we are probably never going to get fuller clips or shows. One option would be similar to what I proposed for the band's audio recordings which would be to make them available for purchase via Nugs or something similar as they do have video recordings there. Not sure how that would work between Don's rights and the band's/record company's.
Personally I'm working on the basis that the stuff will never be seen.
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
Still thinking about that Monterey footage. Looks like the guy retired and never responded to my last email a few years back. This is awful to say, but maybe when he passes his kids will do something it it. He’s licensed it a single time, 16 years ago.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I was told by DD's assistant that Julien paid DD $5K for that 2-to-3 second footage in TFIU.
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I see why he didn't like my $1K offer for everything. Thank you Julien for at least getting probably the best footage from the show out there.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑25 Apr 2023, 2:59amI was told by DD's assistant that Julien paid DD $5K for that 2-to-3 second footage in TFIU.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
I'm losing my live Clash touch, what show is this from?
It looks like 79, but they pretty much just did the Kampuchea show that December in London and I don't think this matches (in terms of the description). I feel like this has been discussed before, but I'm drawing a blank.
It looks like 79, but they pretty much just did the Kampuchea show that December in London and I don't think this matches (in terms of the description). I feel like this has been discussed before, but I'm drawing a blank.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
Ah, it was discussed here: https://www.clashcity.com/boards/viewto ... =7&t=13336
I speculated late 78 Lyceum which makes sense based on Mick's hair and the flags.
I speculated late 78 Lyceum which makes sense based on Mick's hair and the flags.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: The Clash Live At Harlesden Coliseum, 1970s London, Etc. Video Footage
It's November or early December '78 somewhere in England