Best Remote Control
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First album version for me though only by a whisker, it's the vocals that swing it for me. Nice to hear the other version, haven't listened to Vanilla Tapes for a long time.
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Seriously. I maybe listened to them once, then stored them away.
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Oh, here's another poll I won.
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And no false promises in this one either.
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Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
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If I were a Clash fan, I would hope for a disco version.
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Then Ivan met G.I. Joe.
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For the record, just realized Rattie agrees with me about Joe’s dopey 77 vocals.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:47pmVanilla Tapes...and it's not even close. Much richer arrangement, more mature vocal take...fully three-dimensional whereas the original was not exactly one of s/t's better recorded efforts (live it killed pretty much from Day 1). As stratospheric an improvement over the original as Cap Radio 2 if they'd run with it and done a formal take.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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matedog wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 10:04amFor the record, just realized Rattie agrees with me about Joe’s dopey 77 vocals.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:47pmVanilla Tapes...and it's not even close. Much richer arrangement, more mature vocal take...fully three-dimensional whereas the original was not exactly one of s/t's better recorded efforts (live it killed pretty much from Day 1). As stratospheric an improvement over the original as Cap Radio 2 if they'd run with it and done a formal take.
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Hang on, Mick sings it. Do you mean those inaudible backing vocals?matedog wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 10:04amFor the record, just realized Rattie agrees with me about Joe’s dopey 77 vocals.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:47pmVanilla Tapes...and it's not even close. Much richer arrangement, more mature vocal take...fully three-dimensional whereas the original was not exactly one of s/t's better recorded efforts (live it killed pretty much from Day 1). As stratospheric an improvement over the original as Cap Radio 2 if they'd run with it and done a formal take.
Just had another listen to this song tonight, it is still utterly pointless.
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Never mind Hoy. He wouldn't know the Clash from Limp Bizkit or Creed.Heston wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 9:49pmHang on, Mick sings it. Do you mean those inaudible backing vocals?matedog wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 10:04amFor the record, just realized Rattie agrees with me about Joe’s dopey 77 vocals.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:47pmVanilla Tapes...and it's not even close. Much richer arrangement, more mature vocal take...fully three-dimensional whereas the original was not exactly one of s/t's better recorded efforts (live it killed pretty much from Day 1). As stratospheric an improvement over the original as Cap Radio 2 if they'd run with it and done a formal take.
Just had another listen to this song tonight, it is still utterly pointless.
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The single/album version is brilliant a mini opera indeed. All this brilliant inventiveness on a punk album. If you didn't get it then you won't get it now.Heston wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 9:49pmHang on, Mick sings it. Do you mean those inaudible backing vocals?matedog wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 10:04amFor the record, just realized Rattie agrees with me about Joe’s dopey 77 vocals.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:47pmVanilla Tapes...and it's not even close. Much richer arrangement, more mature vocal take...fully three-dimensional whereas the original was not exactly one of s/t's better recorded efforts (live it killed pretty much from Day 1). As stratospheric an improvement over the original as Cap Radio 2 if they'd run with it and done a formal take.
Just had another listen to this song tonight, it is still utterly pointless.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
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I agree that even if the band pushed for that as a single CBS would most likely have said "No!". This might have prompted The Clash to think they didn't have the 'artistically free' deal they thought they had and they might have written something like 'Complete Control' with a different inspiration.Marky Dread wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 8:34pmAgreed JJ is a great track mate. However I'm thinking it's 1977 JJ (Marion Mitchell) was still fresh in some peoples memory for her sex parties and 'controlling prostitutes' and how the record company might react to a song about a high classed madam. Wouldn't even surprise if some well known faces at CBS attended those parties (ooh playing devil's advocate) feels good some days.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 7:48pm"Janie Jones", pretty obvious to me. Eddie Cochran with distortion, what more do ya want?Marky Dread wrote: ↑02 Nov 2017, 5:19pmMy question is if not RC then what other track do you think would've made a good single.
And then peeps buy the album and - oh boy, these homies got something to say. But to get hooked in with a song about girls, real day to day "polytricks" and current pop culture, hey - can't go wrong there.
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"Press a button! Activate!"Heston wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 9:49pmHang on, Mick sings it. Do you mean those inaudible backing vocals?matedog wrote: ↑21 Jul 2019, 10:04amFor the record, just realized Rattie agrees with me about Joe’s dopey 77 vocals.Rat Patrol wrote: ↑01 Nov 2017, 2:47pmVanilla Tapes...and it's not even close. Much richer arrangement, more mature vocal take...fully three-dimensional whereas the original was not exactly one of s/t's better recorded efforts (live it killed pretty much from Day 1). As stratospheric an improvement over the original as Cap Radio 2 if they'd run with it and done a formal take.
Just had another listen to this song tonight, it is still utterly pointless.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.