Friday Poll Thread #3 - Worst Clash Song
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The Crooked Beat and Look Here are really the only two Clash songs I always skip. And since Look Here is a cover and doesn’t have dreadful vocals, I voted for that crooked, crooked.. BEAT!
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I like Hitsville. Shrug.
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i like all these songs now, i think. i'm getting soft.
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There's a bunch of shit on Combat Rock that is elevated by the weirdness of it that the b-sides miss out on, so I can def see your point.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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The first ten seconds or so are great, but the rest of the song always seemed like they were reaching a little beyond their songwriting/arranging skillset. There's a basis for a great song, but the execution falls short and the lack of...arrangement? really brings the song down for me. Once it gets going, it just never really develops.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I don't dislike it by any means, but for something namechecking Motown, it lacks any of Motown's spirit. Not unlike Phil Collins' abusive cover.matedog wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 1:42pmThe first ten seconds or so are great, but the rest of the song always seemed like they were reaching a little beyond their songwriting/arranging skillset. There's a basis for a great song, but the execution falls short and the lack of...arrangement? really brings the song down for me. Once it gets going, it just never really develops.
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It would be infinitely better without the glock playing the melody in unison with Mick and Ellen. It makes it sound like a kid's song. They should have kept that instrument to the instrumental hook section like in "It's the Same Old Song" by Four Tops. And louder guitar stabs.matedog wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 1:42pmThe first ten seconds or so are great, but the rest of the song always seemed like they were reaching a little beyond their songwriting/arranging skillset. There's a basis for a great song, but the execution falls short and the lack of...arrangement? really brings the song down for me. Once it gets going, it just never really develops.
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Agreed. Also Mick's vocal is pretty superfluous. Maybe a better arranged harmony part would have been betterKory wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 3:21pmIt would be infinitely better without the glock playing the melody in unison with Mick and Ellen. It makes it sound like a kid's song. They should have kept that instrument to the instrumental hook section like in "It's the Same Old Song" by Four Tops. And louder guitar stabs.matedog wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 1:42pmThe first ten seconds or so are great, but the rest of the song always seemed like they were reaching a little beyond their songwriting/arranging skillset. There's a basis for a great song, but the execution falls short and the lack of...arrangement? really brings the song down for me. Once it gets going, it just never really develops.
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Could've been so much better without Ellen. That's not a put down of Ellen's vocal but it's just not needed here as it sounds too sweet. A double tracked Mick or even Joe's gruff vocal recorded behind Mick in the mix would've given the track so much more edge. That glock is mixed way too high.Heston wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 3:49pmAgreed. Also Mick's vocal is pretty superfluous. Maybe a better arranged harmony part would have been betterKory wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 3:21pmIt would be infinitely better without the glock playing the melody in unison with Mick and Ellen. It makes it sound like a kid's song. They should have kept that instrument to the instrumental hook section like in "It's the Same Old Song" by Four Tops. And louder guitar stabs.matedog wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 1:42pmThe first ten seconds or so are great, but the rest of the song always seemed like they were reaching a little beyond their songwriting/arranging skillset. There's a basis for a great song, but the execution falls short and the lack of...arrangement? really brings the song down for me. Once it gets going, it just never really develops.
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I think I have posted this before but Danny Boyle likes it;
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Totally agree Joe and/or Mick in a proper arrangement and a different key would have been better. The recorded version has been arranged to suit Ellen's voice and it's just not the kind of key Mick usually sings in. He's singing it too low making it sound superfluous, almost like a guide vocal that leaked through.Marky Dread wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 4:11pmCould've been so much better without Ellen. That's not a put down of Ellen's vocal but it's just not needed here as it sounds too sweet. A double tracked Mick or even Joe's gruff vocal recorded behind Mick in the mix would've given the track so much more edge. That glock is mixed way too high.Heston wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 3:49pmAgreed. Also Mick's vocal is pretty superfluous. Maybe a better arranged harmony part would have been betterKory wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 3:21pmIt would be infinitely better without the glock playing the melody in unison with Mick and Ellen. It makes it sound like a kid's song. They should have kept that instrument to the instrumental hook section like in "It's the Same Old Song" by Four Tops. And louder guitar stabs.matedog wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 1:42pmThe first ten seconds or so are great, but the rest of the song always seemed like they were reaching a little beyond their songwriting/arranging skillset. There's a basis for a great song, but the execution falls short and the lack of...arrangement? really brings the song down for me. Once it gets going, it just never really develops.
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He just does an octave harmony right? A more interesting harmony would have been better. I like Kory's suggestion on the glock melody too.Heston wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 4:24pmTotally agree Joe and/or Mick in a proper arrangement and a different key would have been better. The recorded version has been arranged to suit Ellen's voice and it's just not the kind of key Mick usually sings in. He's singing it too low making it sound superfluous, almost like a guide vocal that leaked through.Marky Dread wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 4:11pmCould've been so much better without Ellen. That's not a put down of Ellen's vocal but it's just not needed here as it sounds too sweet. A double tracked Mick or even Joe's gruff vocal recorded behind Mick in the mix would've given the track so much more edge. That glock is mixed way too high.Heston wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 3:49pmAgreed. Also Mick's vocal is pretty superfluous. Maybe a better arranged harmony part would have been betterKory wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 3:21pmIt would be infinitely better without the glock playing the melody in unison with Mick and Ellen. It makes it sound like a kid's song. They should have kept that instrument to the instrumental hook section like in "It's the Same Old Song" by Four Tops. And louder guitar stabs.matedog wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 1:42pm
The first ten seconds or so are great, but the rest of the song always seemed like they were reaching a little beyond their songwriting/arranging skillset. There's a basis for a great song, but the execution falls short and the lack of...arrangement? really brings the song down for me. Once it gets going, it just never really develops.
A lot of S! suffers from being undercooked from the arrangements to the structures to Topper's drumming. I love the album, but it had more potential than its exectuion.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Yeah and it adds nothing. There is a close vocal harmony on there but Ellen does it. A better arrangement would have seen Mick and Ellen harmonising instead.
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One thing that's always bugged me about Hitsville. On the lyric sheet it says "it's fast rough factory trade", but it sounds nothing like "trade" on the recording. Sounds more like "time" to me. Which doesn't really make any sense.
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