Money? If Joe hated the album that much, why else would he release it? He would have had to owe Sony back the advance. Instead, he broke up the group and told the press he hated it so the fans wouldn't nevessarily purchase it? He didn't have a lot of good options.Marky Dread wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 3:28pmJoe spoke about taking out an ad in the music press. About boycotting the release of CtC and re-recording the whole thing. This didn't happen and he chose to run away to Spain instead.
If Joe felt so strongly about CtC being a mess why didn't he take the re-recording option and restore some faith to the name of The Clash instead of leaving it to be the final hurrah.
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I think he believed in Bernie's Future-Punk thing, at least initially.
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Yep I see it as finance over credibility. But this was the name of The Clash being dragged through the mud.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 10:53pmMoney? If Joe hated the album that much, why else would he release it? He would have had to owe Sony back the advance. Instead, he broke up the group and told the press he hated it so the fans wouldn't nevessarily purchase it? He didn't have a lot of good options.Marky Dread wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 3:28pmJoe spoke about taking out an ad in the music press. About boycotting the release of CtC and re-recording the whole thing. This didn't happen and he chose to run away to Spain instead.
If Joe felt so strongly about CtC being a mess why didn't he take the re-recording option and restore some faith to the name of The Clash instead of leaving it to be the final hurrah.
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I suppose when you're that close to it you might not think of it that way until it's in hindsight.Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 4:20amYep I see it as finance over credibility. But this was the name of The Clash being dragged through the mud.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 10:53pmMoney? If Joe hated the album that much, why else would he release it? He would have had to owe Sony back the advance. Instead, he broke up the group and told the press he hated it so the fans wouldn't nevessarily purchase it? He didn't have a lot of good options.Marky Dread wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 3:28pmJoe spoke about taking out an ad in the music press. About boycotting the release of CtC and re-recording the whole thing. This didn't happen and he chose to run away to Spain instead.
If Joe felt so strongly about CtC being a mess why didn't he take the re-recording option and restore some faith to the name of The Clash instead of leaving it to be the final hurrah.
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I think that is possibly true mate. Joe was clearly affected by the need to make this new version of the band work. Yet I suspect he knew the old magic was gone.Kory wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 12:51pmI suppose when you're that close to it you might not think of it that way until it's in hindsight.Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 4:20amYep I see it as finance over credibility. But this was the name of The Clash being dragged through the mud.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 10:53pmMoney? If Joe hated the album that much, why else would he release it? He would have had to owe Sony back the advance. Instead, he broke up the group and told the press he hated it so the fans wouldn't nevessarily purchase it? He didn't have a lot of good options.Marky Dread wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 3:28pmJoe spoke about taking out an ad in the music press. About boycotting the release of CtC and re-recording the whole thing. This didn't happen and he chose to run away to Spain instead.
If Joe felt so strongly about CtC being a mess why didn't he take the re-recording option and restore some faith to the name of The Clash instead of leaving it to be the final hurrah.
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He often cited that the magic went when Topper was sacked. My understanding was it was only Mick who wanted to stand by Topper?Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 1:49pmI think that is possibly true mate. Joe was clearly affected by the need to make this new version of the band work. Yet I suspect he knew the old magic was gone.Kory wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 12:51pmI suppose when you're that close to it you might not think of it that way until it's in hindsight.Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 4:20amYep I see it as finance over credibility. But this was the name of The Clash being dragged through the mud.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 10:53pmMoney? If Joe hated the album that much, why else would he release it? He would have had to owe Sony back the advance. Instead, he broke up the group and told the press he hated it so the fans wouldn't nevessarily purchase it? He didn't have a lot of good options.Marky Dread wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 3:28pmJoe spoke about taking out an ad in the music press. About boycotting the release of CtC and re-recording the whole thing. This didn't happen and he chose to run away to Spain instead.
If Joe felt so strongly about CtC being a mess why didn't he take the re-recording option and restore some faith to the name of The Clash instead of leaving it to be the final hurrah.
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I think so mate. Mick invited Topper to join T.R.A.C.deny wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 1:52pmHe often cited that the magic went when Topper was sacked. My understanding was it was only Mick who wanted to stand by Topper?Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 1:49pmI think that is possibly true mate. Joe was clearly affected by the need to make this new version of the band work. Yet I suspect he knew the old magic was gone.Kory wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 12:51pmI suppose when you're that close to it you might not think of it that way until it's in hindsight.Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 4:20amYep I see it as finance over credibility. But this was the name of The Clash being dragged through the mud.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 10:53pm
Money? If Joe hated the album that much, why else would he release it? He would have had to owe Sony back the advance. Instead, he broke up the group and told the press he hated it so the fans wouldn't nevessarily purchase it? He didn't have a lot of good options.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
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Paul was fairly passive on this, as the story goes, I think.deny wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 1:52pmHe often cited that the magic went when Topper was sacked. My understanding was it was only Mick who wanted to stand by Topper?Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 1:49pmI think that is possibly true mate. Joe was clearly affected by the need to make this new version of the band work. Yet I suspect he knew the old magic was gone.Kory wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 12:51pmI suppose when you're that close to it you might not think of it that way until it's in hindsight.Marky Dread wrote: ↑28 Jun 2019, 4:20amYep I see it as finance over credibility. But this was the name of The Clash being dragged through the mud.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑27 Jun 2019, 10:53pm
Money? If Joe hated the album that much, why else would he release it? He would have had to owe Sony back the advance. Instead, he broke up the group and told the press he hated it so the fans wouldn't nevessarily purchase it? He didn't have a lot of good options.
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