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Good on 'em for keeping the album in the public eye, but $75 is probably a little steep for me for a scrapbook without any new music attached.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑16 Aug 2019, 11:46amhttps://smarturl.it/TheClashLC2019
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I’d like the scrap book without the CD.Flex wrote: ↑16 Aug 2019, 11:50amGood on 'em for keeping the album in the public eye, but $75 is probably a little steep for me for a scrapbook without any new music attached.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑16 Aug 2019, 11:46amhttps://smarturl.it/TheClashLC2019
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I gave my UK first pressing album to Jack Nitzsche in March of 1980.
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Wow Teddy. When you name-drop you do it in styleTeddyB Not Logged In wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 1:24amI gave my UK first pressing album to Jack Nitzsche in March of 1980.
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This seems a pointless release to me. A brilliant album a brilliant band but not a brilliant release sadly. What can possibly be in that scrap book that's not been seen before.
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The Clash seem to have been and continue to be the canary in the coal mine for this constant repackaging of the same meager (albeit great) material over and over again. The Bowie camp is catching up with Space Oddity, though.Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 1:46pmThis seems a pointless release to me. A brilliant album a brilliant band but not a brilliant release sadly. What can possibly be in that scrap book that's not been seen before.
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The Sex Pistols seem to get away with it because McLaren gave it ideological cover by saying it's all a swindle anyway. Declaring it a rip-off from the start and doing it anyway puts all the blame on the consumer for falling for it. The sincerity of the Clash, on the other hand, that they are allied with the audience raises expectations that they'll deliver value for the money, as they did originally. Which is a shame that we are encouraged to reward cynicism and chastise sincerity, but there you go.Wolter wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:44pmThe Clash seem to have been and continue to be the canary in the coal mine for this constant repackaging of the same meager (albeit great) material over and over again. The Bowie camp is catching up with Space Oddity, though.Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 1:46pmThis seems a pointless release to me. A brilliant album a brilliant band but not a brilliant release sadly. What can possibly be in that scrap book that's not been seen before.
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Mick went to great lengths when publicising the ‘Sound System’ box set to say that it was his absolute, final closing of the door on Clash archive stuff. Especially with Joe not around.
I’d love to hear more brand new outtakes, live stuff or just upgrades on the demos etc we’ve all enjoyed for years, but am not holding my breath.
I’m excited to learn more about whatever (video release?) is being worked on for release next year, mind....
I’d love to hear more brand new outtakes, live stuff or just upgrades on the demos etc we’ve all enjoyed for years, but am not holding my breath.
I’m excited to learn more about whatever (video release?) is being worked on for release next year, mind....
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To offer an alternate perspective: I think it's to the clash camp's credit that so many of these releases don't offer, say, 1 or 2 extra tracks to try to bait hardcore fans I to rebuying the same album for the nth time. If someone wants to Shell out $75 for a scrapbook, more power to them, but there's no bait here to force the hand of the IMCT crowd to shell out their cash on LC's 40th. I gotta think it'd be so easy to add a stray track or two and get people to quadruple dip, but the clash don't really do that (I'm fact, as memory serves, Mick scratched a plan to do just that for a Sandinista! anniversary release). I think the clash catalog is still treated way less cynically than many others.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:56pmThe Sex Pistols seem to get away with it because McLaren gave it ideological cover by saying it's all a swindle anyway. Declaring it a rip-off from the start and doing it anyway puts all the blame on the consumer for falling for it. The sincerity of the Clash, on the other hand, that they are allied with the audience raises expectations that they'll deliver value for the money, as they did originally. Which is a shame that we are encouraged to reward cynicism and chastise sincerity, but there you go.Wolter wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:44pmThe Clash seem to have been and continue to be the canary in the coal mine for this constant repackaging of the same meager (albeit great) material over and over again. The Bowie camp is catching up with Space Oddity, though.Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 1:46pmThis seems a pointless release to me. A brilliant album a brilliant band but not a brilliant release sadly. What can possibly be in that scrap book that's not been seen before.
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It also comes down to what is left?? Madness and The Specials did a great job of re releasing their original albums whilst emptying the vaults.Flex wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 7:53pmTo offer an alternate perspective: I think it's to the clash camp's credit that so many of these releases don't offer, say, 1 or 2 extra tracks to try to bait hardcore fans I to rebuying the same album for the nth time. If someone wants to Shell out $75 for a scrapbook, more power to them, but there's no bait here to force the hand of the IMCT crowd to shell out their cash on LC's 40th. I gotta think it'd be so easy to add a stray track or two and get people to quadruple dip, but the clash don't really do that (I'm fact, as memory serves, Mick scratched a plan to do just that for a Sandinista! anniversary release). I think the clash catalog is still treated way less cynically than many others.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:56pmThe Sex Pistols seem to get away with it because McLaren gave it ideological cover by saying it's all a swindle anyway. Declaring it a rip-off from the start and doing it anyway puts all the blame on the consumer for falling for it. The sincerity of the Clash, on the other hand, that they are allied with the audience raises expectations that they'll deliver value for the money, as they did originally. Which is a shame that we are encouraged to reward cynicism and chastise sincerity, but there you go.Wolter wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:44pmThe Clash seem to have been and continue to be the canary in the coal mine for this constant repackaging of the same meager (albeit great) material over and over again. The Bowie camp is catching up with Space Oddity, though.Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 1:46pmThis seems a pointless release to me. A brilliant album a brilliant band but not a brilliant release sadly. What can possibly be in that scrap book that's not been seen before.
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The (potentially) cynical move is to commission a second disc of remixes. Cynical because those are usually dodgy efforts, but on occasion they're satisfying (Go4's Return the Gift comes to mind). But, as Flex suggests, it speaks well to Clash HQ that they aren't constantly squeezing the fanbase for every dime, and I'd like to think it isn't because Joe is dead.101Walterton wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 7:58pmIt also comes down to what is left?? Madness and The Specials did a great job of re releasing their original albums whilst emptying the vaults.Flex wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 7:53pmTo offer an alternate perspective: I think it's to the clash camp's credit that so many of these releases don't offer, say, 1 or 2 extra tracks to try to bait hardcore fans I to rebuying the same album for the nth time. If someone wants to Shell out $75 for a scrapbook, more power to them, but there's no bait here to force the hand of the IMCT crowd to shell out their cash on LC's 40th. I gotta think it'd be so easy to add a stray track or two and get people to quadruple dip, but the clash don't really do that (I'm fact, as memory serves, Mick scratched a plan to do just that for a Sandinista! anniversary release). I think the clash catalog is still treated way less cynically than many others.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:56pmThe Sex Pistols seem to get away with it because McLaren gave it ideological cover by saying it's all a swindle anyway. Declaring it a rip-off from the start and doing it anyway puts all the blame on the consumer for falling for it. The sincerity of the Clash, on the other hand, that they are allied with the audience raises expectations that they'll deliver value for the money, as they did originally. Which is a shame that we are encouraged to reward cynicism and chastise sincerity, but there you go.Wolter wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:44pmThe Clash seem to have been and continue to be the canary in the coal mine for this constant repackaging of the same meager (albeit great) material over and over again. The Bowie camp is catching up with Space Oddity, though.Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 1:46pmThis seems a pointless release to me. A brilliant album a brilliant band but not a brilliant release sadly. What can possibly be in that scrap book that's not been seen before.
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I mean, if they really wanted, they could just toss on a few live tracks or something even if the studio vaults are barren... stuff Mick knows (thanks TeddyB!) Has been out there for years. I really reapect that this hasn't really happened, even as we occasionally pine for more official live material.101Walterton wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 7:58pmIt also comes down to what is left?? Madness and The Specials did a great job of re releasing their original albums whilst emptying the vaults.Flex wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 7:53pmTo offer an alternate perspective: I think it's to the clash camp's credit that so many of these releases don't offer, say, 1 or 2 extra tracks to try to bait hardcore fans I to rebuying the same album for the nth time. If someone wants to Shell out $75 for a scrapbook, more power to them, but there's no bait here to force the hand of the IMCT crowd to shell out their cash on LC's 40th. I gotta think it'd be so easy to add a stray track or two and get people to quadruple dip, but the clash don't really do that (I'm fact, as memory serves, Mick scratched a plan to do just that for a Sandinista! anniversary release). I think the clash catalog is still treated way less cynically than many others.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:56pmThe Sex Pistols seem to get away with it because McLaren gave it ideological cover by saying it's all a swindle anyway. Declaring it a rip-off from the start and doing it anyway puts all the blame on the consumer for falling for it. The sincerity of the Clash, on the other hand, that they are allied with the audience raises expectations that they'll deliver value for the money, as they did originally. Which is a shame that we are encouraged to reward cynicism and chastise sincerity, but there you go.Wolter wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 2:44pmThe Clash seem to have been and continue to be the canary in the coal mine for this constant repackaging of the same meager (albeit great) material over and over again. The Bowie camp is catching up with Space Oddity, though.Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Aug 2019, 1:46pmThis seems a pointless release to me. A brilliant album a brilliant band but not a brilliant release sadly. What can possibly be in that scrap book that's not been seen before.
If the the Clash ever put out a remix album as good as Return the Gift, I'd consider it great value for the dollar. No exploitation whatsoever.
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No, it’s not just that Joe isn’t here, though I think that argues further against a new mix of old material by someone who wasn’t there when they recorded it. Mick and Bill Price did remix a couple of tracks from LC over the years. But Bill is now gone, Mick doesn’t want to do it, and doesn’t rate the idea of someone else doing it. There was serious talk of a new LC doc by a well-known U.K. director, but that faded away, possibly down to Mick’s lack of enthusiastic participation. So instead there’s new vinyl and CD and cassette of the album with new mastering (is it half-speed?) aimed at buyers who don’t have it already.
The scrapbook I think is a way of commemorating the album’s 40th for “real” fans without loading up another deluxe box set. The Vanilla demos were already released. The Clash (and Mick) don’t seem into padding it with live material. They did reject Sony’s idea of a Sandinista 30th (?) release with a couple of outtakes and perhaps added live show from Amsterdam (sourced from the radio tapes). A video component could change that equation though next year.
I actually don’t know if they have all the Lewisham multi-tracks. They did make a quick mix of Jimmy Jazz that has been bootlegged, suggesting they have more than has been released, but I don’t know the state of the tapes and, again, Bill is gone.
The scrapbook I think is a way of commemorating the album’s 40th for “real” fans without loading up another deluxe box set. The Vanilla demos were already released. The Clash (and Mick) don’t seem into padding it with live material. They did reject Sony’s idea of a Sandinista 30th (?) release with a couple of outtakes and perhaps added live show from Amsterdam (sourced from the radio tapes). A video component could change that equation though next year.
I actually don’t know if they have all the Lewisham multi-tracks. They did make a quick mix of Jimmy Jazz that has been bootlegged, suggesting they have more than has been released, but I don’t know the state of the tapes and, again, Bill is gone.
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I'd be happy with some kind of video release for S40 but i'll pass if its an audio rehash of a radio tape TBH.