Clash City Showdown Revisited?

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Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 4:34pm
I'm a few pages in and I'm reading about a Paul Simonon solo album recorded for Stiff that was never released (!). Never heard this mentioned anywhere else, is there a story behind this?
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Kory wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:17pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 4:34pm
I'm a few pages in and I'm reading about a Paul Simonon solo album recorded for Stiff that was never released (!). Never heard this mentioned anywhere else, is there a story behind this?
Weirrrrrrd
I would obviously pay a lot of money to hear this. Good comedy albums are thin on the ground.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:26pm
Kory wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:17pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 4:34pm
I'm a few pages in and I'm reading about a Paul Simonon solo album recorded for Stiff that was never released (!). Never heard this mentioned anywhere else, is there a story behind this?
Weirrrrrrd
I would obviously pay a lot of money to hear this. Good comedy albums are thin on the ground.
Maybe it's a banger dub album...
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Re: Clash City Showdown Revisited?

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Kory wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:32pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:26pm
Kory wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:17pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 4:34pm
I'm a few pages in and I'm reading about a Paul Simonon solo album recorded for Stiff that was never released (!). Never heard this mentioned anywhere else, is there a story behind this?
Weirrrrrrd
I would obviously pay a lot of money to hear this. Good comedy albums are thin on the ground.
Maybe it's a banger dub album...
12 Crooked Beats? My money's off the table.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:42pm
Kory wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:32pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:26pm
Kory wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:17pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 4:34pm
I'm a few pages in and I'm reading about a Paul Simonon solo album recorded for Stiff that was never released (!). Never heard this mentioned anywhere else, is there a story behind this?
Weirrrrrrd
I would obviously pay a lot of money to hear this. Good comedy albums are thin on the ground.
Maybe it's a banger dub album...
12 Crooked Beats? My money's off the table.
It's basically a 20-minute version of "Listen," but just the bass.
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The Paul album is true. I asked him about it in 1984 and he said he got too busy to finish it. But seeing as how he was working with Mikey Dread on it and Mikey fell out with the Clash for a while, that's probably another possibility. Or maybe it sucked and Stiff didn't want to release it is another possibility.

I do think it's interesting that Paul wasn't contractually bound to CBS though.

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Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 6:00pm
I'm on to the section about Rat Patrol From Fort Bragg and Chris mentions he doesn't think the version we all know was Mick's final mix. That it was a "work in progress" copy. I've always thought this too due to the sloppy vocals (I'm thinking especially Ghetto Defendant and Know your Rights) and wondered if it was ever confirmed this was what Mick presented to the record company as the finished article? TeddyB?
I've heard tell there's another Mick mix out there that is more finished than the circulated version but you have to know the handshake to hear it.

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IkarisOne wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:47pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 6:00pm
I'm on to the section about Rat Patrol From Fort Bragg and Chris mentions he doesn't think the version we all know was Mick's final mix. That it was a "work in progress" copy. I've always thought this too due to the sloppy vocals (I'm thinking especially Ghetto Defendant and Know your Rights) and wondered if it was ever confirmed this was what Mick presented to the record company as the finished article? TeddyB?
I've heard tell there's another Mick mix out there that is more finished than the circulated version but you have to know the handshake to hear it.
When Sound System came out I was expecting to hear better versions of Kill Time and Beautiful People but they were just the same mixes that we always had. And Joe's guide-like vocal was still present on the extended Ghetto Defendant. This made me wonder if it actually was the finished thing after all.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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IkarisOne wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:46pm
The Paul album is true. I asked him about it in 1984 and he said he got too busy to finish it. But seeing as how he was working with Mikey Dread on it and Mikey fell out with the Clash for a while, that's probably another possibility. Or maybe it sucked and Stiff didn't want to release it is another possibility.

I do think it's interesting that Paul wasn't contractually bound to CBS though.
My curiosity is going nuts about this.
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Kory wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:32pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:26pm
Kory wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:17pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 4:34pm
I'm a few pages in and I'm reading about a Paul Simonon solo album recorded for Stiff that was never released (!). Never heard this mentioned anywhere else, is there a story behind this?
Weirrrrrrd
I would obviously pay a lot of money to hear this. Good comedy albums are thin on the ground.
Maybe it's a banger dub album...
One track emerged



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I love the section on the Cost of Living EP, agree with every word.

Imagine losing the three weakest songs on London Calling (for me Lover's Rock, Four Horsemen and Revolution Rock) and replacing them with GotW, Groovy Times and I Fought the Law? You'd have an absolute beast of an album on your hands.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 8:53pm
I love the section on the Cost of Living EP, agree with every word.

Imagine losing the three weakest songs on London Calling (for me Lover's Rock, Four Horsemen and Revolution Rock) and replacing them with GotW, Groovy Times and I Fought the Law? You'd have an absolute beast of an album on your hands.
Two of my favorite tracks!

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I remember massively agreeing about One More Time.
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IkarisOne wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 9:02pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 8:53pm
I love the section on the Cost of Living EP, agree with every word.

Imagine losing the three weakest songs on London Calling (for me Lover's Rock, Four Horsemen and Revolution Rock) and replacing them with GotW, Groovy Times and I Fought the Law? You'd have an absolute beast of an album on your hands.
Two of my favorite tracks!
Definitely Revolution Rock is a top track for me.

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Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 8:25pm
IkarisOne wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 7:47pm
Heston wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 6:00pm
I'm on to the section about Rat Patrol From Fort Bragg and Chris mentions he doesn't think the version we all know was Mick's final mix. That it was a "work in progress" copy. I've always thought this too due to the sloppy vocals (I'm thinking especially Ghetto Defendant and Know your Rights) and wondered if it was ever confirmed this was what Mick presented to the record company as the finished article? TeddyB?
I've heard tell there's another Mick mix out there that is more finished than the circulated version but you have to know the handshake to hear it.
When Sound System came out I was expecting to hear better versions of Kill Time and Beautiful People but they were just the same mixes that we always had. And Joe's guide-like vocal was still present on the extended Ghetto Defendant. This made me wonder if it actually was the finished thing after all.
It's possible, but it's also possible that Mick is sitting on his mix because he's still sore about the Glyn Johns business. If so, I get it.

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