I would wager that he wrote Crooked Beat's lyrics as well.matedog wrote: ↑23 Jan 2020, 2:12pmAnd the only lyrics we know he wrote for sure is GOB right? Broadway's lyrics seem a bit more...advanced than a song about movie that Paul likes.
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So...were they handing out credits for bass lines? Standard practice back then was lyrics and/or top line (vocal) melody for a songwriting credit.matedog wrote: ↑23 Jan 2020, 2:12pmAnd the only lyrics we know he wrote for sure is GOB right? Broadway's lyrics seem a bit more...advanced than a song about movie that Paul likes.
If they were awarded for his basslines it may give a clue as to what he definitely played on.
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Not per traditional rules, but Joe/Mick probably allowed it when it was a lead part of the song's development. I was going to complain about NWR not getting credit on Mag 7, but him and Mickey are credited now. That was a fairly recent development right?Heston wrote: ↑23 Jan 2020, 2:19pmSo...were they handing out credits for bass lines? Standard practice back then was lyrics and/or top line (vocal) melody for a songwriting credit.
If they were awarded for his basslines it may give a clue as to what he definitely played on.
I should have the list up soon, I'll start a new thread.
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They got money but did they get an official credit? I've never seen it in print.matedog wrote: ↑23 Jan 2020, 2:28pmNot per traditional rules, but Joe/Mick probably allowed it when it was a lead part of the song's development. I was going to complain about NWR not getting credit on Mag 7, but him and Mickey are credited now. That was a fairly recent development right?Heston wrote: ↑23 Jan 2020, 2:19pmSo...were they handing out credits for bass lines? Standard practice back then was lyrics and/or top line (vocal) melody for a songwriting credit.
If they were awarded for his basslines it may give a clue as to what he definitely played on.
I should have the list up soon, I'll start a new thread.
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Hah! ASCAP lists Joe, Mick, Tops and Paul as writers for Mag 7, but Joe, Mick and Tops for Mag Dance.
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I've just noted that in the thread I've just started.
IT CAN ONLY MEAN PAUL WROTE LYRICS FOR MAG 7!!
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Which is weird because one assumes that it was complete by the time he returned, but I suppose they just jammed on the riff forever and Joe did the vocals much later.
The Strummer/Simonon credit for Crooked Beat throws my earlier guess into confusion.
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He might have came up with something as simple as the "you lot" chorus. The main verses seem too much of a train of thought by Joe. Or maybe he was sitting reading the newspaper and shouted out "vacuum cleaner sucks up budgie."
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That was from The Sun wasn’t it? Sure I have read somewhere about that.Heston wrote: ↑23 Jan 2020, 5:38pmHe might have came up with something as simple as the "you lot" chorus. The main verses seem too much of a train of thought by Joe. Or maybe he was sitting reading the newspaper and shouted out "vacuum cleaner sucks up budgie."
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Added Vanilla tapes and I think I'm about as far as I can get. Any more info on London Calling-Combat Rock is appreciated.
*edit* added some random 1982 info.
*edit* added some random 1982 info.
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Was the Casbah vocal take any different? Sounds the same to me.
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Thanks, I read that in Passion shortly after the last update and will revise accordingly. As Hes noted, I believe it is just Stay and KYR.
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Ghetto Defendant had its vocal re-recorded at some point too.
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Is the Sound System version the Rat Patrol version?Heston wrote: ↑27 Jan 2020, 11:18amGhetto Defendant had its vocal re-recorded at some point too.
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