The Clash Studio Logs/Sessionography

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So....who's going to put all the tracks together in chronological order and upload them somewhere? :-)
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This is an amazing thread. Book-worthy. Thank you @matedog for the work.

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Looking back at the pages I reviewed this fundamental topic, thanks again matedog :mrgreen:
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matedog wrote:
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Okay, here's the work in progress studio log/sessionography.
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Interesting stuff, thanks for putting all that info together in one place :cool:

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Just an addition: since Charlie Don't Surf was debuted live at around the same time as Somebody Got Murdered, in April/May 1980, it would make sense that the former was also recorded during the August/September Wessex sessions as Somebody Got Murdered. Just a guess, but would align with the fact that it sounds like Paul playing the bass on it, and that it only has Mickey Gallagher on the organ as an additional musician.

Also, is there the possibility that Hitsville UK was recorded during the Spirit of St. Louis sessions?

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Just an addition: since Charlie Don't Surf was debuted live at around the same time as Somebody Got Murdered, in April/May 1980, it would make sense that the former was also recorded during the August/September Wessex sessions as Somebody Got Murdered. Just a guess, but would align with the fact that it sounds like Paul playing the bass on it, and that it only has Mickey Gallagher on the organ as an additional musician.

Also, is there the possibility that Hitsville UK was recorded during the Spirit of St. Louis sessions?
I'd be very surprised if Paul turned out to be on Hitsville. That line has some articulation that really doesn't sound like him. It looks like NWR was on the Foley album, so that scans to me. SGM does sound like Paul, but I'm a bit dubious about CDS—the articulation, again, doesn't really sound like him but I could be wrong.
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Kory wrote:
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InthePouringRain wrote:
18 Mar 2021, 4:18pm
Just an addition: since Charlie Don't Surf was debuted live at around the same time as Somebody Got Murdered, in April/May 1980, it would make sense that the former was also recorded during the August/September Wessex sessions as Somebody Got Murdered. Just a guess, but would align with the fact that it sounds like Paul playing the bass on it, and that it only has Mickey Gallagher on the organ as an additional musician.

Also, is there the possibility that Hitsville UK was recorded during the Spirit of St. Louis sessions?
I'd be very surprised if Paul turned out to be on Hitsville. That line has some articulation that really doesn't sound like him. It looks like NWR was on the Foley album, so that scans to me. SGM does sound like Paul, but I'm a bit dubious about CDS—the articulation, again, doesn't really sound like him but I could be wrong.
Whilst you may be correct Kory. I will point out that Paul played the bass lines to CDS brilliantly live.
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Marky Dread wrote:
18 Mar 2021, 6:12pm
Kory wrote:
18 Mar 2021, 5:36pm
InthePouringRain wrote:
18 Mar 2021, 4:18pm
Just an addition: since Charlie Don't Surf was debuted live at around the same time as Somebody Got Murdered, in April/May 1980, it would make sense that the former was also recorded during the August/September Wessex sessions as Somebody Got Murdered. Just a guess, but would align with the fact that it sounds like Paul playing the bass on it, and that it only has Mickey Gallagher on the organ as an additional musician.

Also, is there the possibility that Hitsville UK was recorded during the Spirit of St. Louis sessions?
I'd be very surprised if Paul turned out to be on Hitsville. That line has some articulation that really doesn't sound like him. It looks like NWR was on the Foley album, so that scans to me. SGM does sound like Paul, but I'm a bit dubious about CDS—the articulation, again, doesn't really sound like him but I could be wrong.
Whilst you may be correct Kory. I will point out that Paul played the bass lines to CDS brilliantly live.
Yeah, they are good, but it's because we have those live recordings that I make that consideration. We have recordings of Paul definitely playing those lines (again, quite well), vs. a recorded version that by comparison sounds like another player.
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I thought CDS was one of the songs we knew Norman played on. I think it was documented.
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I thought CDS was one of the songs we knew Norman played on. I think it was documented.
Has there been an official list of who plays on what?
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Marky Dread wrote:
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Heston wrote:
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I thought CDS was one of the songs we knew Norman played on. I think it was documented.
Has there been an official list of who plays on what?
No but I remember him identifying it as one he played on in an interview.
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Heston wrote:
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Marky Dread wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 6:39am
Heston wrote:
18 Mar 2021, 9:10pm
I thought CDS was one of the songs we knew Norman played on. I think it was documented.
Has there been an official list of who plays on what?
No but I remember him identifying it as one he played on in an interview.
Yeah I wasn't questioning that he plays on it. As a Clash fan it occurs to me none of us lost out by having Norman Watt-Roy play on Clash songs. He is by far the best bass player I have ever seen and I've seen a fair few.

Just think it would be cool if we could piece together from stuff like interviews etc who played on what. I know Matey is great at collating this stuff.
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I was under the impression that Norman Watt-Roy was the bass player on most of Sandinista! because of Paul filming "Ladies and Gentleman, The Fabulous Stains".
Of course I have no idea how much or which songs.

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The Sessionography is the best I could muster for Sandinista and I got a lot further than I thought I would. Still, not a lot of recording information on Charlie.
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matedog wrote:
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The Sessionography is the best I could muster for Sandinista and I got a lot further than I thought I would. Still, not a lot of recording information on Charlie.
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