Sandinista as a double
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Flu, you say. In late Feb last year.
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Haha, it could well have been the old 'rona but probably too early. I'm double jabbed now so I'm starting to relax a bit.
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eumaas was the first person I saw to call it the rona. Probability a multi-person simultaneous idea, but I think he really was the first to get there.
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Well done, John. Works for me just fine!
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Really like this S! = 2LP as Glyn would approach it vs just 24 of your fav songs. It's kindred to what CBS did with Sandinista Now! - that tracklist being tailored to AOR programmers for airplay. Your clean-up is definitely in spirit with a rescue job.
Ive tried to re-sequence S! so many times that Im only happy with it as a triple - a full director's cut of the prolific madness that year. A 2LP would fall victim to a song-by-song comparison to LC. Likewise, there is no 12 song sequence that out performs LC as a single. Maybe they could have done it as a double with a follow-up remixes/versions album that includes TIRC. But that probably wasn't standard practice back in '81.
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Yeah I ejected songs I like over stuff I left on, but it was about making it commercial as possible. For example I much prefer Lose This Skin and Living In Fame to Junco Partner but I wanted it to sound every bit like a Clash record.YoungParisians wrote: ↑04 May 2021, 2:35pmReally like this S! = 2LP as Glyn would approach it vs just 24 of your fav songs. It's kindred to what CBS did with Sandinista Now! - that tracklist being tailored to AOR programmers for airplay. Your clean-up is definitely in spirit with a rescue job.
Ive tried to re-sequence S! so many times that Im only happy with it as a triple - a full director's cut of the prolific madness that year. A 2LP would fall victim to a song-by-song comparison to LC. Likewise, there is no 12 song sequence that out performs LC as a single. Maybe they could have done it as a double with a follow-up remixes/versions album that includes TIRC. But that probably wasn't standard practice back in '81.
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Yeah, same. I tried recently to trim the album down, just to see if I could, and listened to it several times to figure out which songs would get axed. Realized that there's only one song out of the 36 that I don't like — the Kidz Bop version of Career Opportunities. Cute tune, but the joke wore thin after the first listen. Other than that one, there's nothing else on the record that I could live without hearing, which is pretty incredible to say about a 36-song, two-and-a-half hour record. So I ended up creating a slightly altered track sequence, with Career Opportunities snipped, The Street Parade in its place, and I added Stop the World to side 5 (never understood why it was cut), between Mensforth and Junkie Slip.YoungParisians wrote: ↑04 May 2021, 2:35pmIve tried to re-sequence S! so many times that Im only happy with it as a triple - a full director's cut of the prolific madness that year. A 2LP would fall victim to a song-by-song comparison to LC. Likewise, there is no 12 song sequence that out performs LC as a single. Maybe they could have done it as a double with a follow-up remixes/versions album that includes TIRC. But that probably wasn't standard practice back in '81.
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Should have it sorted this week Dave, I'm nearly there with it.dave202 wrote: ↑03 May 2021, 2:12pmThanks, that would be great, but don't go out of your way.
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Better late than never but I finally got round to splitting the tracks for this. This is for Dave or anyone else who wants to check it out. I love Sandinista! as released but this was a bit of a challenge to myself to see if I could get a more commercial album out of it using edits and a more user-friendly running order. My choices for side one, for example, seek to reel you in rather than alienate you. And The Street Parade was always the obvious album closer.
I used the Sound System versions except for Mag 7 which is the single mix from "The Singles." I also applied some mastering and EQ across all the tracks.
Here is my tracklisting again with editing info...
Disc One
The Magnificent Seven - Rather than the reverb-drenched album version I used the crisper single mix but edited in the acappella intro from the Magnificent Dance. I also shortened the instrumental intro and added some delay to Joe's vocal
Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) - Edited out the train noises near the end but kept the original fade
Corner Soul
The Leader
One More Time
Charlie Don't Surf
Somebody Got Murdered
The Call Up
Hitsville UK
The Equaliser - Removed the dub intro
Let's Go Crazy - Got rid of the "market seller" spoken intro and outro
Something About England
Disc Two
Police On My Back
Kingston Advice
The Sound of the Sinners - Removed the reprise-style ending
Ivan Meets G.I. Joe
Version City - Took out the speaking intro and outro
Broadway - Lost the kiddy vocal at the end
Washington Bullets
Midnight Log
Junco Partner
Rebel Waltz
If Music Could Talk - Mainly used the left channel but sometimes used both channels for instrumental passages
The Street Parade
Disc One...https://www.filefactory.com/file/eecvy5 ... %20One.rar
Disc Two...https://www.filefactory.com/file/3qynsw ... %20Two.rar
I used the Sound System versions except for Mag 7 which is the single mix from "The Singles." I also applied some mastering and EQ across all the tracks.
Here is my tracklisting again with editing info...
Disc One
The Magnificent Seven - Rather than the reverb-drenched album version I used the crisper single mix but edited in the acappella intro from the Magnificent Dance. I also shortened the instrumental intro and added some delay to Joe's vocal
Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) - Edited out the train noises near the end but kept the original fade
Corner Soul
The Leader
One More Time
Charlie Don't Surf
Somebody Got Murdered
The Call Up
Hitsville UK
The Equaliser - Removed the dub intro
Let's Go Crazy - Got rid of the "market seller" spoken intro and outro
Something About England
Disc Two
Police On My Back
Kingston Advice
The Sound of the Sinners - Removed the reprise-style ending
Ivan Meets G.I. Joe
Version City - Took out the speaking intro and outro
Broadway - Lost the kiddy vocal at the end
Washington Bullets
Midnight Log
Junco Partner
Rebel Waltz
If Music Could Talk - Mainly used the left channel but sometimes used both channels for instrumental passages
The Street Parade
Disc One...https://www.filefactory.com/file/eecvy5 ... %20One.rar
Disc Two...https://www.filefactory.com/file/3qynsw ... %20Two.rar
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Re: Sandinista as a double
Hard to argue with. Can't wait to listen.
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Not sure I agree with these changes:
Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) - Edited out the train noises near the end but kept the original fade
Let's Go Crazy - Got rid of the "market seller" spoken intro and outro
The Sound of the Sinners - Removed the reprise-style ending
But cool with these changes:
The Equaliser - Removed the dub intro
The Magnificent Seven - Rather than the reverb-drenched album version I used the crisper single mix but edited in the acappella intro from the Magnificent Dance. I also shortened the instrumental intro and added some delay to Joe's vocal
Version City - Took out the speaking intro and outro
Broadway - Lost the kiddy vocal at the end
If Music Could Talk - Mainly used the left channel but sometimes used both channels for instrumental passages
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Downloading the first half now, can't wait to give it a listen. Thanks Heston!
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Yeah I quite like the guy talking at the start of Let's Go Crazy but for this exercise I just wanted to hear it as a bunch of songs without any distractions.matedog wrote: ↑04 Jun 2021, 9:34amNot sure I agree with these changes:
Up In Heaven (Not Only Here) - Edited out the train noises near the end but kept the original fade
Let's Go Crazy - Got rid of the "market seller" spoken intro and outro
The Sound of the Sinners - Removed the reprise-style ending
But cool with these changes:
The Equaliser - Removed the dub intro
The Magnificent Seven - Rather than the reverb-drenched album version I used the crisper single mix but edited in the acappella intro from the Magnificent Dance. I also shortened the instrumental intro and added some delay to Joe's vocal
Version City - Took out the speaking intro and outro
Broadway - Lost the kiddy vocal at the end
If Music Could Talk - Mainly used the left channel but sometimes used both channels for instrumental passages
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Let's go crazy alternate
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