Mick's voice on Lost in a supermarket

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Mick's voice on Lost in a supermarket

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What's the precedent for this vocal? Had Mick ever sung so sweetly before this? He was a good punk singer on the 1st two albums. Where did this great, sensitive voice come from?

Also--does anyone know how the song traveled from Joe's pen to Mick's mouth? Why did Joe give it to Mick to sing? I may have answered my own question, as Mick's voice is so perfect on it. But does anyone know any more about the song's journey? Are there any versions with Joe on lead?

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Mick always had that in his vocals.

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I have neglected to mention Stay Free which was a prior example of this voice.

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Great vocal by Mick, I actually think it's well ahead of Stay Free.

The party line is that Joe wrote this about Mick's childhood but I don't see that all. I think it was a bit of subterfuge by Joe so he wouldn't be seen to be moaning about his supposedly "privileged" childhood. Surely it was Joe who lived in the suburbs? Were the "kids in the halls" and "pipes in the walls" not about Joe's boarding school rather than the towerblocks that people seem to assume it's about? The first line in the song especially seems to touch on Joe's abandonment issues. Also the "long distance callers make long distance calls" line seems to fit in with Joe being at boarding school with his parents away abroad.
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He actually sings pretty sweetly on Hate & War, in my opinion.
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Heston wrote:
30 May 2020, 1:01am
Great vocal by Mick, I actually think it's well ahead of Stay Free.

The party line is that Joe wrote this about Mick's childhood but I don't see that all. I think it was a bit of subterfuge by Joe so he wouldn't be seen to be moaning about his supposedly "privileged" childhood. Surely it was Joe who lived in the suburbs? Were the "kids in the halls" and "pipes in the walls" not about Joe's boarding school rather than the towerblocks that people seem to assume it's about? The first line in the song especially seems to touch on Joe's abandonment issues. Also the "long distance callers make long distance calls" line seems to fit in with Joe being at boarding school with his parents away abroad.
Never looked at it from that angle. Makes sense.

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Silent Majority wrote:
30 May 2020, 11:27am
He actually sings pretty sweetly on Hate & War, in my opinion.
Yep.

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101Walterton wrote:
30 May 2020, 4:41pm
Silent Majority wrote:
30 May 2020, 11:27am
He actually sings pretty sweetly on Hate & War, in my opinion.
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Heston wrote:
30 May 2020, 1:01am
Great vocal by Mick, I actually think it's well ahead of Stay Free.

The party line is that Joe wrote this about Mick's childhood but I don't see that all. I think it was a bit of subterfuge by Joe so he wouldn't be seen to be moaning about his supposedly "privileged" childhood. Surely it was Joe who lived in the suburbs? Were the "kids in the halls" and "pipes in the walls" not about Joe's boarding school rather than the towerblocks that people seem to assume it's about? The first line in the song especially seems to touch on Joe's abandonment issues. Also the "long distance callers make long distance calls" line seems to fit in with Joe being at boarding school with his parents away abroad.
I subscribe to this view. We already know he would make Mick sing the songs on which Mick wrote more lightweight music, as well.
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Kory wrote:
01 Jun 2020, 1:58pm
Heston wrote:
30 May 2020, 1:01am
Great vocal by Mick, I actually think it's well ahead of Stay Free.

The party line is that Joe wrote this about Mick's childhood but I don't see that all. I think it was a bit of subterfuge by Joe so he wouldn't be seen to be moaning about his supposedly "privileged" childhood. Surely it was Joe who lived in the suburbs? Were the "kids in the halls" and "pipes in the walls" not about Joe's boarding school rather than the towerblocks that people seem to assume it's about? The first line in the song especially seems to touch on Joe's abandonment issues. Also the "long distance callers make long distance calls" line seems to fit in with Joe being at boarding school with his parents away abroad.
I subscribe to this view. We already know he would make Mick sing the songs on which Mick wrote more lightweight music, as well.
I've met some fierce opposition to this take on it on FB but I'm pretty convinced. Mick has even said that Joe wrote it about him so maybe even he was hoodwinked by the lyric? Or maybe he was in on it from the start...
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Heston wrote:
01 Jun 2020, 2:11pm
Kory wrote:
01 Jun 2020, 1:58pm
Heston wrote:
30 May 2020, 1:01am
Great vocal by Mick, I actually think it's well ahead of Stay Free.

The party line is that Joe wrote this about Mick's childhood but I don't see that all. I think it was a bit of subterfuge by Joe so he wouldn't be seen to be moaning about his supposedly "privileged" childhood. Surely it was Joe who lived in the suburbs? Were the "kids in the halls" and "pipes in the walls" not about Joe's boarding school rather than the towerblocks that people seem to assume it's about? The first line in the song especially seems to touch on Joe's abandonment issues. Also the "long distance callers make long distance calls" line seems to fit in with Joe being at boarding school with his parents away abroad.
I subscribe to this view. We already know he would make Mick sing the songs on which Mick wrote more lightweight music, as well.
I've met some fierce opposition to this take on it on FB but I'm pretty convinced. Mick has even said that Joe wrote it about him so maybe even he was hoodwinked by the lyric? Or maybe he was in on it from the start...
Maybe it was FOR Mick, but ABOUT Joe? Sort of a "here, my gift to you is to open up about my childhood." A bonding experience, or something like that.
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Kory wrote:
01 Jun 2020, 2:34pm
Heston wrote:
01 Jun 2020, 2:11pm
Kory wrote:
01 Jun 2020, 1:58pm
Heston wrote:
30 May 2020, 1:01am
Great vocal by Mick, I actually think it's well ahead of Stay Free.

The party line is that Joe wrote this about Mick's childhood but I don't see that all. I think it was a bit of subterfuge by Joe so he wouldn't be seen to be moaning about his supposedly "privileged" childhood. Surely it was Joe who lived in the suburbs? Were the "kids in the halls" and "pipes in the walls" not about Joe's boarding school rather than the towerblocks that people seem to assume it's about? The first line in the song especially seems to touch on Joe's abandonment issues. Also the "long distance callers make long distance calls" line seems to fit in with Joe being at boarding school with his parents away abroad.
I subscribe to this view. We already know he would make Mick sing the songs on which Mick wrote more lightweight music, as well.
I've met some fierce opposition to this take on it on FB but I'm pretty convinced. Mick has even said that Joe wrote it about him so maybe even he was hoodwinked by the lyric? Or maybe he was in on it from the start...
Maybe it was FOR Mick, but ABOUT Joe? Sort of a "here, my gift to you is to open up about my childhood." A bonding experience, or something like that.
That's been my read. Here's a special song for you to sing.
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I mean, I imagine Mick certainly had abandonment issues too - as great as his nan and aunts were, they weren't his parents. Maybe it's about the both of them?
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I thought it was as simple as Joe wrote it about himself but the song better suited for Mick to sing.

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JennyB wrote:
01 Jun 2020, 3:39pm
I mean, I imagine Mick certainly had abandonment issues too - as great as his nan and aunts were, they weren't his parents. Maybe it's about the both of them?
Yeah, there is that. I just think Joe's childhood ticks more boxes than Mick's for the song in general.
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