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One of the reasons I absolutely don’t buy compilations where I have every track already on previous releases is because they don’t care that I’m buying it begrudgingly. They just want the money and I’ll be damned if I give it to them for nothing.
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Marky Dread wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 7:09am
white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 6:58am
Marky Dread wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 5:51am
white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 4:36am
Marky Dread wrote:
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So taken for a sucker because you want to buy every new release?
If we're talking about Sony taking people for sucker's then yes. It's inconceivable that they wouldn't. Smaller corporations have done bigger "suckering" than Sony at any given time. Would you buy a similar album now based on, lets say, Sunday 2nd March 1980 in San Fran. All Clash fans already have all the tracks on the various compilations and album releases(and Re-releases) so there would be nothing new to entice you other than being a completist.
Honest opinion from me is Mick made it plain there would be no more releases of product already bought and paid for a few times over(2013 being a particularly over-abundant year) and Sony have tried to maximise this last-chance opportunity and dressed it up as the one trick pony called The Clash Hits Back. Never to be repeated i hope. Would it have sold as many if it had only been released last week?
Of course i could be wrong about all of this and welcome any input(TeddyB)from people who may more insight.
I didn't buy my copy of Hits Back at time of release. Much later and very cheaply. So I can't complain too much plus no one forced me to buy it.

But I totally get where you are coming from mate. A band that means an awful lot to people here won't mean so much to a record label 40 years later. We got the SS box and I expect having the Hits Back comp probably (I'm guessing) helped towards the covering of cost. So it feels like it was a compromise. Working paradox?
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Wolter wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 9:59am
One of the reasons I absolutely don’t buy compilations where I have every track already on previous releases is because they don’t care that I’m buying it begrudgingly. They just want the money and I’ll be damned if I give it to them for nothing.
That shit made sense when everything wasn't online. If I wanted to risk my hard-earned on a new band based on a review in a music paper that made it sound up my alley, I had no choice but to check out a best-of. Now, who is a best-of even for?
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Silent Majority wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:20am
Wolter wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 9:59am
One of the reasons I absolutely don’t buy compilations where I have every track already on previous releases is because they don’t care that I’m buying it begrudgingly. They just want the money and I’ll be damned if I give it to them for nothing.
That shit made sense when everything wasn't online. If I wanted to risk my hard-earned on a new band based on a review in a music paper that made it sound up my alley, I had no choice but to check out a best-of. Now, who is a best-of even for?
I could literally knock up a digital version of TCHB in a few minutes, zipp it up and upload to mega and provide a download link here all in l under an hour.

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white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:39am
Silent Majority wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:20am
Wolter wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 9:59am
One of the reasons I absolutely don’t buy compilations where I have every track already on previous releases is because they don’t care that I’m buying it begrudgingly. They just want the money and I’ll be damned if I give it to them for nothing.
That shit made sense when everything wasn't online. If I wanted to risk my hard-earned on a new band based on a review in a music paper that made it sound up my alley, I had no choice but to check out a best-of. Now, who is a best-of even for?
I could literally knock up a digital version of TCHB in a few minutes, zipp it up and upload to mega and provide a download link here all in l under an hour.
Does it come with that t shirt?
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white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:20am
Marky Dread wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 7:09am
white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 6:58am
Marky Dread wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 5:51am
white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 4:36am

If we're talking about Sony taking people for sucker's then yes. It's inconceivable that they wouldn't. Smaller corporations have done bigger "suckering" than Sony at any given time. Would you buy a similar album now based on, lets say, Sunday 2nd March 1980 in San Fran. All Clash fans already have all the tracks on the various compilations and album releases(and Re-releases) so there would be nothing new to entice you other than being a completist.
Honest opinion from me is Mick made it plain there would be no more releases of product already bought and paid for a few times over(2013 being a particularly over-abundant year) and Sony have tried to maximise this last-chance opportunity and dressed it up as the one trick pony called The Clash Hits Back. Never to be repeated i hope. Would it have sold as many if it had only been released last week?
Of course i could be wrong about all of this and welcome any input(TeddyB)from people who may more insight.
I didn't buy my copy of Hits Back at time of release. Much later and very cheaply. So I can't complain too much plus no one forced me to buy it.

But I totally get where you are coming from mate. A band that means an awful lot to people here won't mean so much to a record label 40 years later. We got the SS box and I expect having the Hits Back comp probably (I'm guessing) helped towards the covering of cost. So it feels like it was a compromise. Working paradox?
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IMG_20200926_094029.jpg
The least exciting t shirt ever. ;)
Some canny books though :approve:
Yeah I noticed you had been in my library again. ;)
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Marky Dread wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 11:35am
white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:39am
Silent Majority wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:20am
Wolter wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 9:59am
One of the reasons I absolutely don’t buy compilations where I have every track already on previous releases is because they don’t care that I’m buying it begrudgingly. They just want the money and I’ll be damned if I give it to them for nothing.
That shit made sense when everything wasn't online. If I wanted to risk my hard-earned on a new band based on a review in a music paper that made it sound up my alley, I had no choice but to check out a best-of. Now, who is a best-of even for?
I could literally knock up a digital version of TCHB in a few minutes, zipp it up and upload to mega and provide a download link here all in l under an hour.
Does it come with that t shirt?
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white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 11:44am
Marky Dread wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 11:35am
white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:39am
Silent Majority wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:20am
Wolter wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 9:59am
One of the reasons I absolutely don’t buy compilations where I have every track already on previous releases is because they don’t care that I’m buying it begrudgingly. They just want the money and I’ll be damned if I give it to them for nothing.
That shit made sense when everything wasn't online. If I wanted to risk my hard-earned on a new band based on a review in a music paper that made it sound up my alley, I had no choice but to check out a best-of. Now, who is a best-of even for?
I could literally knock up a digital version of TCHB in a few minutes, zipp it up and upload to mega and provide a download link here all in l under an hour.
Does it come with that t shirt?
£25.00
...and all those books. Deal. ;)
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white man wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:39am
Silent Majority wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 10:20am
Wolter wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 9:59am
One of the reasons I absolutely don’t buy compilations where I have every track already on previous releases is because they don’t care that I’m buying it begrudgingly. They just want the money and I’ll be damned if I give it to them for nothing.
That shit made sense when everything wasn't online. If I wanted to risk my hard-earned on a new band based on a review in a music paper that made it sound up my alley, I had no choice but to check out a best-of. Now, who is a best-of even for?
I could literally knock up a digital version of TCHB in a few minutes, zipp it up and upload to mega and provide a download link here all in l under an hour.
But it wouldn't come with the booklet and art and liner notes, which, as I understand it, makes all the difference. :shifty:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 11:55am
But it wouldn't come with the booklet and art and liner notes, which, as I understand it, makes all the difference. :shifty:
On the other hand, maybe if they had out some more care and thought into that stuff some of us would have been more inclined to buy it.

I'll really only buy comps that are all/mostly previously released stuff if there's some really unique packaging angle (typically the band doing a written deep dive into each track or something) or a high quality vinyl release (contra Kory's preferences). It's funny because the class did just that for the sound system box itself but not so much the hits back package.
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Flex wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 1:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 11:55am
But it wouldn't come with the booklet and art and liner notes, which, as I understand it, makes all the difference. :shifty:
On the other hand, maybe if they had out some more care and thought into that stuff some of us would have been more inclined to buy it.

I'll really only buy comps that are all/mostly previously released stuff if there's some really unique packaging angle (typically the band doing a written deep dive into each track or something) or a high quality vinyl release (contra Kory's preferences). It's funny because the class did just that for the sound system box itself but not so much the hits back package.
Yeah, I was just being a jerky jerk. In the era of streaming and piracy, to get people to buy physical product, you pretty much have to offer something beyond just the audio component. For example, anything associated with Michael Gira and is purchased directly from his label is autographed by him. It's a nice little touch that encourages a person to support the artist.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 1:46pm
Flex wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 1:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 11:55am
But it wouldn't come with the booklet and art and liner notes, which, as I understand it, makes all the difference. :shifty:
On the other hand, maybe if they had out some more care and thought into that stuff some of us would have been more inclined to buy it.

I'll really only buy comps that are all/mostly previously released stuff if there's some really unique packaging angle (typically the band doing a written deep dive into each track or something) or a high quality vinyl release (contra Kory's preferences). It's funny because the class did just that for the sound system box itself but not so much the hits back package.
Yeah, I was just being a jerky jerk. In the era of streaming and piracy, to get people to buy physical product, you pretty much have to offer something beyond just the audio component. For example, anything associated with Michael Gira and is purchased directly from his label is autographed by him. It's a nice little touch that encourages a person to support the artist.
Listen chum when I buy Swans stuff I don't want some jerky jerkwad scrawling all over the artwork.
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Marky Dread wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 3:02pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 1:46pm
Flex wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 1:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 11:55am
But it wouldn't come with the booklet and art and liner notes, which, as I understand it, makes all the difference. :shifty:
On the other hand, maybe if they had out some more care and thought into that stuff some of us would have been more inclined to buy it.

I'll really only buy comps that are all/mostly previously released stuff if there's some really unique packaging angle (typically the band doing a written deep dive into each track or something) or a high quality vinyl release (contra Kory's preferences). It's funny because the class did just that for the sound system box itself but not so much the hits back package.
Yeah, I was just being a jerky jerk. In the era of streaming and piracy, to get people to buy physical product, you pretty much have to offer something beyond just the audio component. For example, anything associated with Michael Gira and is purchased directly from his label is autographed by him. It's a nice little touch that encourages a person to support the artist.
Listen chum when I buy Swans stuff I don't want some jerky jerkwad scrawling all over the artwork.
He signs on the inside, waddy wadjerk. ;) I paid up extra for his last crowdfunded project and got an autographed poster that was specifically dedicated to me. Aw, nice. Except he signed it on the back, so when I got it mounted and framed, bye bye to that. I took a picture before, however. Still …
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 3:34pm
Marky Dread wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 3:02pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 1:46pm
Flex wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 1:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 11:55am
But it wouldn't come with the booklet and art and liner notes, which, as I understand it, makes all the difference. :shifty:
On the other hand, maybe if they had out some more care and thought into that stuff some of us would have been more inclined to buy it.

I'll really only buy comps that are all/mostly previously released stuff if there's some really unique packaging angle (typically the band doing a written deep dive into each track or something) or a high quality vinyl release (contra Kory's preferences). It's funny because the class did just that for the sound system box itself but not so much the hits back package.
Yeah, I was just being a jerky jerk. In the era of streaming and piracy, to get people to buy physical product, you pretty much have to offer something beyond just the audio component. For example, anything associated with Michael Gira and is purchased directly from his label is autographed by him. It's a nice little touch that encourages a person to support the artist.
Listen chum when I buy Swans stuff I don't want some jerky jerkwad scrawling all over the artwork.
He signs on the inside, waddy wadjerk. ;) I paid up extra for his last crowdfunded project and got an autographed poster that was specifically dedicated to me. Aw, nice. Except he signed it on the back, so when I got it mounted and framed, bye bye to that. I took a picture before, however. Still …
So on the back it reads "to jerky jerk from uncle G". Nice. :approve:
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