Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Clash clash clash. ¡VIVAN LOS NORTEAMERICANOS DEL IMCT Y LAS BRIGADAS DEL CADILLAC NUEVO!
matedog
User avatar
Purveyor of Hoyistic Thought
Posts: 22563
Joined: 15 Jun 2008, 4:07pm
Location: 1995

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by matedog »

Heston wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 3:54am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 11:52pm
Cool! Are these from Basing Street?
I think so. Basically the album versions with guide vocals and before they got all the guitar overdubs. They were on a tape handed out by Joe at a car boot sale in Marin in early 1979.
I'm guessing the guy never got back to you about the rest of the tape? I oddly didn't hear back from my connection either.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

Heston
User avatar
God of Thunder...and Rock 'n Roll
Posts: 35416
Joined: 15 Jun 2008, 4:07pm
Location: North of Watford Junction

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Heston »

matedog wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 10:29am
Heston wrote:
24 Dec 2020, 3:54am
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 11:52pm
Cool! Are these from Basing Street?
I think so. Basically the album versions with guide vocals and before they got all the guitar overdubs. They were on a tape handed out by Joe at a car boot sale in Marin in early 1979.
I'm guessing the guy never got back to you about the rest of the tape? I oddly didn't hear back from my connection either.
Unfortunately not. But we'll see what happens down the line.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

Chuck Mangione
User avatar
Spitting Image
Posts: 6722
Joined: 17 Jun 2009, 10:45pm
Location: Up your boulevard.

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Chuck Mangione »

Great work, and thanks for sharing. Can't wait to give it a listen.

VLADI
Corner Soul
Posts: 29
Joined: 30 Jun 2008, 3:15am

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by VLADI »

Thank you very much!!!

Charlie Dont Surf
User avatar
Junco Partner
Posts: 367
Joined: 28 Jun 2008, 3:40am

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Charlie Dont Surf »

Thanks Heston
Someday you'll meet your rockin chair, Cause that's where we're spinnin
There's no point to want to comb your hair, When its grey and thinin

aza
Dirty Punk
Posts: 128
Joined: 04 Apr 2009, 5:40pm

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by aza »

Thank you!

JohnS
User avatar
Long Time Jerk
Posts: 822
Joined: 27 Jun 2008, 6:18pm

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by JohnS »

Belated thanks!
Ignore Alien Hors d'oeuvres

Chairman Ralph
Long Time Jerk
Posts: 602
Joined: 20 Mar 2009, 10:59pm

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Chairman Ralph »

Amazing find! Listening to these, pre-guitar overdubs, makes for an intimate experience, especially on the coda of All The Young Punks, which I never could make out, back in the day -- but I had lots of fun trying! Hopefully, we get to hear more of these somewhere down the line.

Kory
User avatar
Unknown Immortal
Posts: 12975
Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 1:42pm
Location: In the Discosphere

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Kory »

Chairman Ralph wrote:
07 Jan 2021, 6:15am
Amazing find! Listening to these, pre-guitar overdubs, makes for an intimate experience, especially on the coda of All The Young Punks, which I never could make out, back in the day -- but I had lots of fun trying! Hopefully, we get to hear more of these somewhere down the line.
Wouldn't mind some damn Super Deluxe Editions.
WWK: I feel confident we haven't heard the last from Dr. Harvey Camel.

JChampion
Dirty Punk
Posts: 104
Joined: 16 Jun 2008, 2:10pm

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by JChampion »

Awesome stuff! Thank you!

Marky Dread
User avatar
Messiah of the Milk Bar
Posts: 48673
Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Marky Dread »

I remixed and remastered these two tracks as the tape speed was off.

Matedog put them in concert pitch which I would never do as these tracks were recorded in the analogue age. The frequency between modern digital concert pitch and old analogue is different.
Image

Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty

Heston
User avatar
God of Thunder...and Rock 'n Roll
Posts: 35416
Joined: 15 Jun 2008, 4:07pm
Location: North of Watford Junction

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Heston »

Marky Dread wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 12:35pm
I remixed and remastered these two tracks as the tape speed was off.

Matedog put them in concert pitch which I would never do as these tracks were recorded in the analogue age. The frequency between modern digital concert pitch and old analogue is different.
Sorry Marky, I'm wasn't even aware of the digital/analogue pitch thing. I just asked Matey to adjust the pitch a touch because I thought they still sounded a bit off to my slightly trained ears. I knew Andrew had done a good job pitch fixing before on This Is England so I thought I'd ask him. I just saw it as a joint effort to get them sounding as good as possible.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

Marky Dread
User avatar
Messiah of the Milk Bar
Posts: 48673
Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Marky Dread »

Heston wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 1:18pm
Marky Dread wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 12:35pm
I remixed and remastered these two tracks as the tape speed was off.

Matedog put them in concert pitch which I would never do as these tracks were recorded in the analogue age. The frequency between modern digital concert pitch and old analogue is different.
Sorry Marky, I'm wasn't even aware of the digital/analogue pitch thing. I just asked Matey to adjust the pitch a touch because I thought they still sounded a bit off to my slightly trained ears. I knew Andrew had done a good job pitch fixing before on This Is England so I thought I'd ask him. I just saw it as a joint effort to get them sounding as good as possible.
Hey man I'm not complaining. Andrew did a good job but it wasn't needed and not right for an anologue recording. Getting a sound in the studio should never be about precision but getting a natural sound to the individual group. Too many groups rely on the studio to get their sound but they lose their organic feel.

I really hope the guy with the tape will share the rest. As in the same spirit in which Joe handed him the tape in the first place.
Image

Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty

Heston
User avatar
God of Thunder...and Rock 'n Roll
Posts: 35416
Joined: 15 Jun 2008, 4:07pm
Location: North of Watford Junction

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Heston »

Marky Dread wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 1:28pm
Heston wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 1:18pm
Marky Dread wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 12:35pm
I remixed and remastered these two tracks as the tape speed was off.

Matedog put them in concert pitch which I would never do as these tracks were recorded in the analogue age. The frequency between modern digital concert pitch and old analogue is different.
Sorry Marky, I'm wasn't even aware of the digital/analogue pitch thing. I just asked Matey to adjust the pitch a touch because I thought they still sounded a bit off to my slightly trained ears. I knew Andrew had done a good job pitch fixing before on This Is England so I thought I'd ask him. I just saw it as a joint effort to get them sounding as good as possible.
Hey man I'm not complaining. Andrew did a good job but it wasn't needed and not right for an anologue recording. Getting a sound in the studio should never be about precision but getting a natural sound to the individual group. Too many groups rely on the studio to get their sound but they lose their organic feel.

I really hope the guy with the tape will share the rest. As in the same spirit in which Joe handed him the tape in the first place.
That's fair enough mate, why not upload your versions?

I told you about the hoops the guy wanted me to jump through to get the rest. I didn't feel like being someone's plaything so that was that. Which was a shame. He seemed a bit unhinged.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

Marky Dread
User avatar
Messiah of the Milk Bar
Posts: 48673
Joined: 17 Jun 2008, 11:26am

Re: Unreleased working mix of Stay Free

Post by Marky Dread »

Heston wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 1:33pm
Marky Dread wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 1:28pm
Heston wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 1:18pm
Marky Dread wrote:
22 Jan 2021, 12:35pm
I remixed and remastered these two tracks as the tape speed was off.

Matedog put them in concert pitch which I would never do as these tracks were recorded in the analogue age. The frequency between modern digital concert pitch and old analogue is different.
Sorry Marky, I'm wasn't even aware of the digital/analogue pitch thing. I just asked Matey to adjust the pitch a touch because I thought they still sounded a bit off to my slightly trained ears. I knew Andrew had done a good job pitch fixing before on This Is England so I thought I'd ask him. I just saw it as a joint effort to get them sounding as good as possible.
Hey man I'm not complaining. Andrew did a good job but it wasn't needed and not right for an anologue recording. Getting a sound in the studio should never be about precision but getting a natural sound to the individual group. Too many groups rely on the studio to get their sound but they lose their organic feel.

I really hope the guy with the tape will share the rest. As in the same spirit in which Joe handed him the tape in the first place.
That's fair enough mate, why not upload your versions?

I told you about the hoops the guy wanted me to jump through to get the rest. I didn't feel like being someone's plaything so that was that. Which was a shame. He seemed a bit unhinged.
Yeah anybody is welcome to them.

Regards the guy it is his tape but in the manner it was shared to him by Joe it would be nice if he reciprocated that mentality.
Image

Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty

Post Reply