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Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:24pm
Actually, pooling all the best sources together you can get a near perfect Rat Patrol now. Add the Sound System stuff to this plus Walk Evil Talk and it's nigh on full fidelity all the way through.
Walk Evil Talk is damaged at the start of the track. However I've repaired it and clean it up.
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Marky Dread wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:48pm
Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:24pm
Actually, pooling all the best sources together you can get a near perfect Rat Patrol now. Add the Sound System stuff to this plus Walk Evil Talk and it's nigh on full fidelity all the way through.
Walk Evil Talk is damaged at the start of the track. However I've repaired it and clean it up.
Sounds like we're in business. :approve:
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Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 4:03pm
matedog wrote:
13 May 2021, 3:56pm
Interesting. I think we discussed this recently, but this is post double album Rat Patrol, pre Combat Rock?
We did, but I'm damned if I can find it. These came up on Facebook first but the guy quickly disappeared, possibly alerted to their value. Would be interesting to hear what is on them.
Was it this you were looking for?

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Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:44pm
Kory wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:42pm
Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:41pm
Kory wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:36pm
Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:28pm


Yes, I think we have the full thing now. Listening again and this is a major upgrade.
Oh sorry, I didn't see that you had already posted that same idea.
No worries mate, "I'm as happy as a pig in shit" as we say over here. Inoculated City is just immense, been waiting years for these songs in this quality.
Yeah I just used the phrase "holy grail" in telling my friend about it.
Now if that crazy bloke from Marin would just hand over the GEER demos.
Oh wait I just realized, do we have Ghetto Defendent in good quality?
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Kory wrote:
13 May 2021, 6:37pm
Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:44pm
Kory wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:42pm
Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:41pm
Kory wrote:
13 May 2021, 5:36pm


Oh sorry, I didn't see that you had already posted that same idea.
No worries mate, "I'm as happy as a pig in shit" as we say over here. Inoculated City is just immense, been waiting years for these songs in this quality.
Yeah I just used the phrase "holy grail" in telling my friend about it.
Now if that crazy bloke from Marin would just hand over the GEER demos.
Oh wait I just realized, do we have Ghetto Defendent in good quality?
Sound System though I think a clever edit between the official and Rat Patrol version could be great. Joe sings so much better on the re-recorded vocal. But the RP version has the extra verse and long outro.
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Glyn Johns was harsh on Inoculated City with his vicious editing. What a wonderful, ahead of its time, sound collage at the end.
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13 May 2021, 6:49pm
Glyn Johns was harsh on Inoculated City with his vicious editing. What a wonderful, ahead of its time, sound collage at the end.
Far superior in Mick's original form. BAD starts here for me.
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Death Is a Star sounds so much more atmospheric with the heavy reverb. No longer sounds like it was recorded on someone's porch. I kinda really like it now.
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Re: Rat Patrol 2LP acetate

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Marky Dread wrote:
13 May 2021, 6:50pm
Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 6:49pm
Glyn Johns was harsh on Inoculated City with his vicious editing. What a wonderful, ahead of its time, sound collage at the end.
Far superior in Mick's original form. BAD starts here for me.
Yep, dynamite. ;)
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 May 2021, 4:29pm
Here ya go, boogers: https://mega.nz/folder/kAsWlBjQ#Mg3W0MLwOOoQzIlOYQxy4Q
Thanks Doc.
Just checking back in to this thread, and pleased to see it's a bit of a find.
The bass on Straight To Hell grabbed me right away as sounding much clearer/louder, if not a whole new part completely.
I'm amazed the samples are of 2 full sides. A shame about the missing sides, but, glass half full and all that.

EDIT - I've just realised, the samples cover everything.The 2 acetates are single sided :oops:
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JohnS wrote:
13 May 2021, 8:04pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 May 2021, 4:29pm
Here ya go, boogers: https://mega.nz/folder/kAsWlBjQ#Mg3W0MLwOOoQzIlOYQxy4Q
Thanks Doc.
Just checking back in to this thread, and pleased to see it's a bit of a find.
The bass on Straight To Hell grabbed me right away as sounding much clearer/louder, if not a whole new part completely.
I'm amazed the samples are of 2 full sides. A shame about the missing sides, but, glass half full and all that.
The bass is over loud because it's brickwalled. But hey...
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I can't believe it. Rat Patrol is my favorite album of all time, and I was actually just listening to Marky's mix on my drive home thinking "it would be great to get this in better quality." Problems aside, it sounds fantastic. It's so nice to finally get those last few tracks in really solid quality. Never really noticed the lovely little hi-hat parts during Know Your Rights, those are great. This is all just so cool to have now.

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I was listening to my Rat Patrol mix in the car on Tuesday, opining that I'd probably never get to hear these mixes in better quality. Two days later, well, I've about died and gone to heaven. Inoculated City in all it's glory, the holy grail. So nice hearing all the samples clearly, and the space-echo'd guitars finally have some definition!!

But Car Jamming??? This is unbelievable. What an incredible version! The sliced and diced guitar cutting across the mix, criss-crossing drones and samples. This is just eons ahead of it's time. Mick, you genius.

If this makes the rounds among fans, maybe it puts a little pressure on The Clash camp to get an official version out there. If not, I'm okay with that. This is fantastic.

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Heston wrote:
13 May 2021, 6:49pm
Glyn Johns was harsh on Inoculated City with his vicious editing. What a wonderful, ahead of its time, sound collage at the end.
I almost get more angry thinking about this than anything to do with CtC to be honest. Maybe Johns had his reasons, but for a band whose whole raison d'etre had become exploring or pushing boundaries, it just feels like so much of s wasted opportunity. It's obvious now that there was far too much compromise of micks original vision. If even they could at least have met half way!

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Rat Patrol was way better than Combat Rock with some great inventive ideas. Sure some vocal takes are better but the tracks were great as they were. Glyn Johns wasn't needed. Why they couldn't go with Mick's original tracks for the album and just do edits etc for the singles is beyond me.

Rat Patrol makes Cut the Crap look like the cold turd it really is.
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