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I’ll say it again: RAD is good and perfectly suited to the album it’s on.
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I’ll say it again: RAD is good and perfectly suited to the album it’s on.
I'll say it again: I like this Kory guy and the board he's on.
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Silent Majority wrote:
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I don't actually believe this, but let's say Kosmo Vinyl is being an absolute, not knowing his position jerk and stepping on Mick's toes and Paul, the least musical, worst vocalist of the band is also nearly coming to blows with you about the mix of a record. Would you then let them both humiliate themselves on record?
Secondary bonus of future pissing off some fan who also hates the drummer he’s about to rehire. And also mysteriously impressing some bass playing dork in the future.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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I'm in the minority that thinks Kosmo isn't that bad on it. Maybe it's just in comparison to Paul's super weird vocal.
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Heston wrote:
22 May 2021, 7:34pm
I'm in the minority that thinks Kosmo isn't that bad on it. Maybe it's just in comparison to Paul's super weird vocal.
When I first heard I thought the vocal was strange but cool. Now I think it's just strange. But the track as a whole is great. Lots going on in this mix.
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Heston wrote:
22 May 2021, 7:34pm
I'm in the minority that thinks Kosmo isn't that bad on it. Maybe it's just in comparison to Paul's super weird vocal.
I'm good with Paul, so I pretty much have to be good with Kosmo. Sometimes you don't resist and swim with the weird tide.
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RAD is extra jarring on CR being right before Straight to Hell. You have this magnum opus, masterpiece of tone, mood, rhythm, lyrical heartbreak that follows some weird non-song with your foghorn bassist yammering on about gangs in New York or something (and whatever the fuck the Hands up for Hollywood verse is about) and your hanger on doing a way too long and way too dumb impersonation of a movie from a few years prior. It makes more sense pretty much anywhere else, but definitely as the Rat Patrol fade in opener.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:07am
RAD is extra jarring on CR being right before Straight to Hell. You have this magnum opus, masterpiece of tone, mood, rhythm, lyrical heartbreak that follows some weird non-song with your foghorn bassist yammering on about gangs in New York or something (and whatever the fuck the Hands up for Hollywood verse is about) and your hanger on doing a way too long and way too dumb impersonation of a movie from a few years prior. It makes more sense pretty much anywhere else, but definitely as the Rat Patrol fade in opener.
"yammering on about gangs in New York or something"

It's really about Guardian (Red) Angel Frankie Melvin who was working for anti crime and was shot dead by a police officer. I think RAD is very pertinent for these times.

The songs lyrics then make the contrast between this killing and the movie Taxi Driver where Travis has decided he's had enough and takes the law into his own hands.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/12/31 ... 378622800/
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Marky Dread wrote:
24 May 2021, 5:09am
matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:07am
RAD is extra jarring on CR being right before Straight to Hell. You have this magnum opus, masterpiece of tone, mood, rhythm, lyrical heartbreak that follows some weird non-song with your foghorn bassist yammering on about gangs in New York or something (and whatever the fuck the Hands up for Hollywood verse is about) and your hanger on doing a way too long and way too dumb impersonation of a movie from a few years prior. It makes more sense pretty much anywhere else, but definitely as the Rat Patrol fade in opener.
"yammering on about gangs in New York or something"

It's really about Guardian (Red) Angel Frankie Melvin who was working for anti crime and was shot dead by a police officer. I think RAD is very pertinent for these times.

The songs lyrics then make the contrast between this killing and the movie Taxi Driver where Travis has decided he's had enough and takes the law into his own hands.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/12/31 ... 378622800/
If you've got a serious point to make on a song, best not to use your goofy voiced bass player to deliver the message. And the bad Taxi Driver impersonation. At long as it went on, at least he didn't do the "you talking to me?" bit.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
24 May 2021, 5:09am
matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:07am
RAD is extra jarring on CR being right before Straight to Hell. You have this magnum opus, masterpiece of tone, mood, rhythm, lyrical heartbreak that follows some weird non-song with your foghorn bassist yammering on about gangs in New York or something (and whatever the fuck the Hands up for Hollywood verse is about) and your hanger on doing a way too long and way too dumb impersonation of a movie from a few years prior. It makes more sense pretty much anywhere else, but definitely as the Rat Patrol fade in opener.
"yammering on about gangs in New York or something"

It's really about Guardian (Red) Angel Frankie Melvin who was working for anti crime and was shot dead by a police officer. I think RAD is very pertinent for these times.

The songs lyrics then make the contrast between this killing and the movie Taxi Driver where Travis has decided he's had enough and takes the law into his own hands.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/12/31 ... 378622800/
If you've got a serious point to make on a song, best not to use your goofy voiced bass player to deliver the message. And the bad Taxi Driver impersonation. At long as it went on, at least he didn't do the "you talking to me?" bit.
Concur with Hoy here. Lyrics alone it could be considered a sincere observation about the Guardian Angels, but the delivery, esp. KV's, does not suggest gravity whatsoever. Not exactly a lark either, but certainly nothing like STH's commitment.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:59pm
matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
24 May 2021, 5:09am
matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:07am
RAD is extra jarring on CR being right before Straight to Hell. You have this magnum opus, masterpiece of tone, mood, rhythm, lyrical heartbreak that follows some weird non-song with your foghorn bassist yammering on about gangs in New York or something (and whatever the fuck the Hands up for Hollywood verse is about) and your hanger on doing a way too long and way too dumb impersonation of a movie from a few years prior. It makes more sense pretty much anywhere else, but definitely as the Rat Patrol fade in opener.
"yammering on about gangs in New York or something"

It's really about Guardian (Red) Angel Frankie Melvin who was working for anti crime and was shot dead by a police officer. I think RAD is very pertinent for these times.

The songs lyrics then make the contrast between this killing and the movie Taxi Driver where Travis has decided he's had enough and takes the law into his own hands.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/12/31 ... 378622800/
If you've got a serious point to make on a song, best not to use your goofy voiced bass player to deliver the message. And the bad Taxi Driver impersonation. At long as it went on, at least he didn't do the "you talking to me?" bit.
Concur with Hoy here. Lyrics alone it could be considered a sincere observation about the Guardian Angels, but the delivery, esp. KV's, does not suggest gravity whatsoever. Not exactly a lark either, but certainly nothing like STH's commitment.
Oh I agree it comes across as a bit goofy. But I wasn't addressing the vocal stylings just the message in response to Andrew's comment of "yammering on about gangs in New York or something".
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Marky Dread wrote:
24 May 2021, 2:27pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:59pm
matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
24 May 2021, 5:09am
matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:07am
RAD is extra jarring on CR being right before Straight to Hell. You have this magnum opus, masterpiece of tone, mood, rhythm, lyrical heartbreak that follows some weird non-song with your foghorn bassist yammering on about gangs in New York or something (and whatever the fuck the Hands up for Hollywood verse is about) and your hanger on doing a way too long and way too dumb impersonation of a movie from a few years prior. It makes more sense pretty much anywhere else, but definitely as the Rat Patrol fade in opener.
"yammering on about gangs in New York or something"

It's really about Guardian (Red) Angel Frankie Melvin who was working for anti crime and was shot dead by a police officer. I think RAD is very pertinent for these times.

The songs lyrics then make the contrast between this killing and the movie Taxi Driver where Travis has decided he's had enough and takes the law into his own hands.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/12/31 ... 378622800/
If you've got a serious point to make on a song, best not to use your goofy voiced bass player to deliver the message. And the bad Taxi Driver impersonation. At long as it went on, at least he didn't do the "you talking to me?" bit.
Concur with Hoy here. Lyrics alone it could be considered a sincere observation about the Guardian Angels, but the delivery, esp. KV's, does not suggest gravity whatsoever. Not exactly a lark either, but certainly nothing like STH's commitment.
Oh I agree it comes across as a bit goofy. But I wasn't addressing the vocal stylings just the message in response to Andrew's comment of "yammering on about gangs in New York or something".
Quit diffusing my attempts at snark!
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 3:07pm
Marky Dread wrote:
24 May 2021, 2:27pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:59pm
matedog wrote:
24 May 2021, 1:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
24 May 2021, 5:09am


"yammering on about gangs in New York or something"

It's really about Guardian (Red) Angel Frankie Melvin who was working for anti crime and was shot dead by a police officer. I think RAD is very pertinent for these times.

The songs lyrics then make the contrast between this killing and the movie Taxi Driver where Travis has decided he's had enough and takes the law into his own hands.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/12/31 ... 378622800/
If you've got a serious point to make on a song, best not to use your goofy voiced bass player to deliver the message. And the bad Taxi Driver impersonation. At long as it went on, at least he didn't do the "you talking to me?" bit.
Concur with Hoy here. Lyrics alone it could be considered a sincere observation about the Guardian Angels, but the delivery, esp. KV's, does not suggest gravity whatsoever. Not exactly a lark either, but certainly nothing like STH's commitment.
Oh I agree it comes across as a bit goofy. But I wasn't addressing the vocal stylings just the message in response to Andrew's comment of "yammering on about gangs in New York or something".
Quit diffusing my attempts at snark!
Try harder junior!
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I said this on twitter, but it's worth repeating here. The Fulham Connection was well ahead of its time. Unfortunately, the time it ended up representing was 1986.
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