Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:35pm
Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:21pm
I'll say it again they were and are not "The Only Band That Matters". I hate that quote completely.
You could paraphrase it then: the sole rock n roll combo of significance. :shifty:

The Clash's core product was catharsis- a bunch of pissed-off little tweekers going absolutely apeshit and coupling that with memorable hooks. It was a great product but it was the right product at the wrong time. The Boomer cokehead-douchenozzles who had the entire industry in a headlock didn't want to know about it, they wanted Steely Dan and Doobie Brothers music 24/7. If the band could have hunkered down for a year or two they could've ridden out the storm. But they started second-guessing themselves and making compromises. The record companies love that- you make for an easy bronco to bust. Hence going from Drug Stabbing Time to Death is a Star in less time than most bands today release followup albums.

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IkarisOne wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:36pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:35pm
Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:21pm
I'll say it again they were and are not "The Only Band That Matters". I hate that quote completely.
You could paraphrase it then: the sole rock n roll combo of significance. :shifty:

The Clash's core product was catharsis- a bunch of pissed-off little tweekers going absolutely apeshit and coupling that with memorable hooks. It was a great product but it was the right product at the wrong time. The Boomer cokehead-douchenozzles who had the entire industry in a headlock didn't want to know about it, they wanted Steely Dan and Doobie Brothers music 24/7. If the band could have hunkered down for a year or two they could've ridden out the storm. But they started second-guessing themselves and making compromises. The record companies love that- you make for an easy bronco to bust. Hence going from Drug Stabbing Time to Death is a Star in less time than most bands today release followup albums.
That's something I often find curious because it seems so obvious in retrospect. A group is suffering from serious in-fighting, creative differences, all that crap, so just agree to hit pause for a couple years to let people do their own thing and cool the room. Then see if time apart serves as a reminder of why they enjoyed working together in the first place. The Beatles, obviously—everyone go do a couple solo albums and then come back in a few years. Why the dramatic act of firing or quitting?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:35pm
Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:21pm
I'll say it again they were and are not "The Only Band That Matters". I hate that quote completely.
You could paraphrase it then: the sole rock n roll combo of significance. :shifty:
Easy there doc. 🤣

Seriously though whoever came up with that stupid quote needs shooting.

The Clash just "One Of Many Great Bands That Matter".😉
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I think it's just human nature to want to tell the people you're sick of to fuck off and to go start something fresh. The people who have a clear enough head to not burn the bridges and wreck what they've built are pretty impressive people, imho.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:42pm

That's something I often find curious because it seems so obvious in retrospect. A group is suffering from serious in-fighting, creative differences, all that crap, so just agree to hit pause for a couple years to let people do their own thing and cool the room. Then see if time apart serves as a reminder of why they enjoyed working together in the first place. The Beatles, obviously—everyone go do a couple solo albums and then come back in a few years. Why the dramatic act of firing or quitting?
I would say two things: familiarity breeds contempt and contractual stipulations. Being in a band under that kind of pressure really leads musicians to hate each other, because you're stuck together around the clock under some boring, grueling conditions. The other thing is back then bands were contracted to do an album a year and tour, which makes it hard to write good songs. There are all other kinds of legal and contractual witchcraft that inevitably poison the well with musicians, who are usually not well-adjusted mature adults.

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Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:45pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:35pm
Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:21pm
I'll say it again they were and are not "The Only Band That Matters". I hate that quote completely.
You could paraphrase it then: the sole rock n roll combo of significance. :shifty:
Easy there doc. 🤣

Seriously though whoever came up with that stupid quote needs shooting.

The Clash just "One Of Many Great Bands That Matter".😉
Gary Lucas told me he came up with that quote.

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aza wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:53pm
Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:45pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:35pm
Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 2:21pm
I'll say it again they were and are not "The Only Band That Matters". I hate that quote completely.
You could paraphrase it then: the sole rock n roll combo of significance. :shifty:
Easy there doc. 🤣

Seriously though whoever came up with that stupid quote needs shooting.

The Clash just "One Of Many Great Bands That Matter".😉
Gary Lucas told me he came up with that quote.
The Beefheart band member?
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Yes. Pretty sure he told me he was working A&R for Epic for a bit, but definitely claimed the quote came from him.

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aza wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:00pm
Yes. Pretty sure he told me he was working A&R for Epic for a bit, but definitely claimed the quote came from him.
Well he's too old to shoot now so he survives another day!!!

Stupid quote!
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Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:03pm
aza wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:00pm
Yes. Pretty sure he told me he was working A&R for Epic for a bit, but definitely claimed the quote came from him.
Well he's too old to shoot now so he survives another day!!!

Stupid quote!
Ha! Personally I like it, it’s kinda like “we may not be the best, but we really matter! Honestly, seriously we do!”
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Maybe a bad quote, but the band bought into it. It's not just something ascribed to the band that they wanted nothing to do with.
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aza wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:05pm
Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:03pm
aza wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:00pm
Yes. Pretty sure he told me he was working A&R for Epic for a bit, but definitely claimed the quote came from him.
Well he's too old to shoot now so he survives another day!!!

Stupid quote!
Ha! Personally I like it, it’s kinda like “we may not be the best, but we really matter! Honestly, seriously we do!”
Sadly it's taken way too seriously.
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Flex wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:07pm
Maybe a bad quote, but the band bought into it. It's not just something ascribed to the band that they wanted nothing to do with.
They mattered to their friends/families/fans etc. But then so do many others.

A band that matters definitely. But "The Only" no way.
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Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:10pm
Flex wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:07pm
Maybe a bad quote, but the band bought into it. It's not just something ascribed to the band that they wanted nothing to do with.
They mattered to their friends/families/fans etc. But then so do many others.

A band that matters definitely. But "The Only" no way.
They marketed themselves as the only band that matters. When you do that, I think you're giving the impression you're trying to be more than just another band trying to make the charts.

It's weird you're denying this.

Addendum: you're not denying it, were just having different conversations
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aza wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:05pm
Marky Dread wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:03pm
aza wrote:
21 May 2022, 3:00pm
Yes. Pretty sure he told me he was working A&R for Epic for a bit, but definitely claimed the quote came from him.
Well he's too old to shoot now so he survives another day!!!

Stupid quote!
Ha! Personally I like it, it’s kinda like “we may not be the best, but we really matter! Honestly, seriously we do!”

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