Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?

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Re: Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?

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Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:32pm
laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 3:46pm
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25 May 2022, 3:14pm
Just realized that He Who Dares Wins is also the name of a live album by Theatre of Hate. It was recorded in Sept 81 and released in early 1982. Mick produced their studio album Westworld in August 1981.

Wonder if that old motto was being thrown around during both Theatre's and Clash's recording sessions and that's why it appeared as album / song title? Also, maybe it means the Clash song was recorded in August 81?

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_o ... re_of_Hate
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Listen to "Do You Believe in the Westworld" and then play that version of "Know Your Rights" from the new release. ;)
I'll take a listen. Both the Leeds and Berlin shows were released as He Who Dares Wins LPs. I have the Berlin version, Laxwife has the Leeds version.
I've got the cd box set.

The opening drums and general feel of "Westworld" is very similar to that early "Know Your Rights".

Inspired by Antonin Artaud's book Theatre and its Double, the new band took its name from the concept of the Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Hate inspired by Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Cruelty a track from Ellen Foley "Spirit of St. Louis"

Theatre of the Absurd a track from Ian Hunter "Short Back n' Sides.
I'm sensing a pattern here!

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laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:49pm
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:32pm
laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 3:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 3:21pm
YoungParisians wrote:
25 May 2022, 3:14pm
Just realized that He Who Dares Wins is also the name of a live album by Theatre of Hate. It was recorded in Sept 81 and released in early 1982. Mick produced their studio album Westworld in August 1981.

Wonder if that old motto was being thrown around during both Theatre's and Clash's recording sessions and that's why it appeared as album / song title? Also, maybe it means the Clash song was recorded in August 81?

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_o ... re_of_Hate
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R-506137-1251919793.jpg
Listen to "Do You Believe in the Westworld" and then play that version of "Know Your Rights" from the new release. ;)
I'll take a listen. Both the Leeds and Berlin shows were released as He Who Dares Wins LPs. I have the Berlin version, Laxwife has the Leeds version.
I've got the cd box set.

The opening drums and general feel of "Westworld" is very similar to that early "Know Your Rights".

Inspired by Antonin Artaud's book Theatre and its Double, the new band took its name from the concept of the Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Hate inspired by Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Cruelty a track from Ellen Foley "Spirit of St. Louis"

Theatre of the Absurd a track from Ian Hunter "Short Back n' Sides.
I'm sensing a pattern here!
It's all very theatrical you know. ;)
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Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 5:09pm
laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:49pm
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:32pm
laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 3:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 3:21pm


Listen to "Do You Believe in the Westworld" and then play that version of "Know Your Rights" from the new release. ;)
I'll take a listen. Both the Leeds and Berlin shows were released as He Who Dares Wins LPs. I have the Berlin version, Laxwife has the Leeds version.
I've got the cd box set.

The opening drums and general feel of "Westworld" is very similar to that early "Know Your Rights".

Inspired by Antonin Artaud's book Theatre and its Double, the new band took its name from the concept of the Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Hate inspired by Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Cruelty a track from Ellen Foley "Spirit of St. Louis"

Theatre of the Absurd a track from Ian Hunter "Short Back n' Sides.
I'm sensing a pattern here!
It's all very theatrical you know. ;)
And treading the boards themselves during autumn 1981...

Théâtre Mogador - Paris
Royal Court Theatre - Liverpool
Apollo Theatre - Glasgow
Lyceum Theatre - London

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Toppers Boppers wrote:
26 May 2022, 4:32am
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 5:09pm
laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:49pm
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:32pm
laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 3:46pm


I'll take a listen. Both the Leeds and Berlin shows were released as He Who Dares Wins LPs. I have the Berlin version, Laxwife has the Leeds version.
I've got the cd box set.

The opening drums and general feel of "Westworld" is very similar to that early "Know Your Rights".

Inspired by Antonin Artaud's book Theatre and its Double, the new band took its name from the concept of the Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Hate inspired by Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Cruelty a track from Ellen Foley "Spirit of St. Louis"

Theatre of the Absurd a track from Ian Hunter "Short Back n' Sides.
I'm sensing a pattern here!
It's all very theatrical you know. ;)
And treading the boards themselves during autumn 1981...

Théâtre Mogador - Paris
Royal Court Theatre - Liverpool
Apollo Theatre - Glasgow
Lyceum Theatre - London
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Marky Dread wrote:
26 May 2022, 4:50am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
26 May 2022, 4:32am
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 5:09pm
laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:49pm
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:32pm


I've got the cd box set.

The opening drums and general feel of "Westworld" is very similar to that early "Know Your Rights".

Inspired by Antonin Artaud's book Theatre and its Double, the new band took its name from the concept of the Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Hate inspired by Theatre of Cruelty.

Theatre of Cruelty a track from Ellen Foley "Spirit of St. Louis"

Theatre of the Absurd a track from Ian Hunter "Short Back n' Sides.
I'm sensing a pattern here!
It's all very theatrical you know. ;)
And treading the boards themselves during autumn 1981...

Théâtre Mogador - Paris
Royal Court Theatre - Liverpool
Apollo Theatre - Glasgow
Lyceum Theatre - London
Life is a cabaret old chum!
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Toppers Boppers wrote:
26 May 2022, 5:59am
Marky Dread wrote:
26 May 2022, 4:50am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
26 May 2022, 4:32am
Marky Dread wrote:
25 May 2022, 5:09pm
laxman wrote:
25 May 2022, 4:49pm


I'm sensing a pattern here!
It's all very theatrical you know. ;)
And treading the boards themselves during autumn 1981...

Théâtre Mogador - Paris
Royal Court Theatre - Liverpool
Apollo Theatre - Glasgow
Lyceum Theatre - London
Life is a cabaret old chum!
All the world's a stage, amigo!
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So I've been playing "He Who Dares Or Is Tired" now if you had told me it was an outtake from "The Gift" by The Jam I wouldn't have blinked.

However The Jam recorded "Town Called Malice" at Air Studios, London in December 1981.

So The Clash recorded their track first. Uncanny possibly.

Now we all know about the Motown steal and The Supremes "You Can't Hurry Love".

But I think it's more likely taken from this.

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They got some album chart action out of this, it's at no. 16 in UK.

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They got some album chart action out of this, it's at no. 16 in UK.
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Toppers Boppers wrote:
30 May 2022, 10:17am
They got some album chart action out of this, it's at no. 16 in UK.
Might have been 15 if I'd bought it.

Such a disappointing release.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
30 May 2022, 2:07pm
Toppers Boppers wrote:
30 May 2022, 10:17am
They got some album chart action out of this, it's at no. 16 in UK.
Might have been 15 if I'd bought it.

Such a disappointing release.
Don't worry I bought 4.
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Marky Dread wrote:
30 May 2022, 4:37pm
Heston wrote:
30 May 2022, 2:07pm
Toppers Boppers wrote:
30 May 2022, 10:17am
They got some album chart action out of this, it's at no. 16 in UK.
Might have been 15 if I'd bought it.

Such a disappointing release.
Don't worry I bought 4.
Bit personal, but is side six etched or smooth?

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I'd guess Sony has finally given on the Clash brand, judging by this mess. I know everyone will sneer at me for saying so, but they really should have included a bonus disc with the Boston Orpheum mixdowns that Mick and Bill Price worked on for FHTE. It would be a way of saying "Yes, we acknowledge it went totally pear-shaped in the studio and we ended up becoming every single thing we set out to destroy, as proven by the ponderous 8 minute Emerson, Lake and Palmer fake-jazz jams, Holiday Inn lounge-tier fake funk, Police cover-band cod-reggae and Sesame Street singalongs. But we got past all that and went down fighting, playing real Clash music on our last major tour."

Forty years on, it all seems so utterly incomprehensible. What the hell was Mick thinking? If Casbah hadn't hit, that album wouldn't even have gone gold. I think all the drugs and anorexia seriously impaired Mick's cognitive and decision making abilities. I don't think people generally understood the devastating effects all that could have on one's neurology.

Then again, I was just listening to the equally incomprehensible Upstarts LP Still from the Heart, so I guess jumping the shark was what all the cool kids were doing that year.

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