Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?

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Re: Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?

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Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:05pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 11:56am
matedog wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 11:23am
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11 Apr 2022, 11:11am


Nice. This is the B-side vocal put over the instrumental version?
That's my understanding yeah. Hopefully he can pop on and confirm.
Yes, he confirmed in the other thread. Isolated the vocal from the b side and laid over the rock version.
Cheers, so you are calling the second instrumental the "rock version".
Yeah, it is quite rocky in comparison. I really can't understand why they didn't release it like this, it works so much better.
I can't argue that it's more "rock". The only other reason has to be the experimental nature those B-sides were taking. I think it's only Kory and me who dig that mutant funk punk thing they had going on.
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Re: Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?

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Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 2:10pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:05pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 11:56am
matedog wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 11:23am


That's my understanding yeah. Hopefully he can pop on and confirm.
Yes, he confirmed in the other thread. Isolated the vocal from the b side and laid over the rock version.
Cheers, so you are calling the second instrumental the "rock version".
Yeah, it is quite rocky in comparison. I really can't understand why they didn't release it like this, it works so much better.
I can't argue that it's more "rock". The only other reason has to be the experimental nature those B-sides were taking. I think it's only Kory and me who dig that mutant funk punk thing they had going on.
To be honest I always just called it the Hell W10 version.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 2:32pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 2:10pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:05pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 11:56am


Yes, he confirmed in the other thread. Isolated the vocal from the b side and laid over the rock version.
Cheers, so you are calling the second instrumental the "rock version".
Yeah, it is quite rocky in comparison. I really can't understand why they didn't release it like this, it works so much better.
I can't argue that it's more "rock". The only other reason has to be the experimental nature those B-sides were taking. I think it's only Kory and me who dig that mutant funk punk thing they had going on.
To be honest I always just called it the Hell W10 version.
That'll do for me.😉
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Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 2:10pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:05pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 11:56am
matedog wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 11:23am


That's my understanding yeah. Hopefully he can pop on and confirm.
Yes, he confirmed in the other thread. Isolated the vocal from the b side and laid over the rock version.
Cheers, so you are calling the second instrumental the "rock version".
Yeah, it is quite rocky in comparison. I really can't understand why they didn't release it like this, it works so much better.
I can't argue that it's more "rock". The only other reason has to be the experimental nature those B-sides were taking. I think it's only Kory and me who dig that mutant funk punk thing they had going on.
I think CK likes that stuff too, but more on the live side of things.
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Kory wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 5:50pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 2:10pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 1:05pm
Heston wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 11:56am


Yes, he confirmed in the other thread. Isolated the vocal from the b side and laid over the rock version.
Cheers, so you are calling the second instrumental the "rock version".
Yeah, it is quite rocky in comparison. I really can't understand why they didn't release it like this, it works so much better.
I can't argue that it's more "rock". The only other reason has to be the experimental nature those B-sides were taking. I think it's only Kory and me who dig that mutant funk punk thing they had going on.
I think CK likes that stuff too, but more on the live side of things.
My thing for many years now is that The Clash for me is Joe yelling and screaming and Mick's guitar at insta-tinitus volume. Any kind of grooves they wanted to hit in that context is alright by me. So pretty much mostly live, yeah. The rest of it's safely in my rear view these days.

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I've heard this alternate version of Cool Confusion(rock instrumental version+lyriccs from hip hop version) .It doesn't work for me....the rock instrumental version has a fast pressing rhythm ... cannot be sung in hip hop style.

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APACHES67 wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 9:40am
I've heard this alternate version of Cool Confusion(rock instrumental version+lyriccs from hip hop version) .It doesn't work for me....the rock instrumental version has a fast pressing rhythm ... cannot be sung in hip hop style.
Hip hop style?
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Marky Dread wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 7:17am
APACHES67 wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 9:40am
I've heard this alternate version of Cool Confusion(rock instrumental version+lyriccs from hip hop version) .It doesn't work for me....the rock instrumental version has a fast pressing rhythm ... cannot be sung in hip hop style.
Hip hop style?
Yeah Cool Confusion in Sound System box Version is sung in hip hop style(or rap style if you prefer)

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APACHES67 wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 8:13am
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 7:17am
APACHES67 wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 9:40am
I've heard this alternate version of Cool Confusion(rock instrumental version+lyriccs from hip hop version) .It doesn't work for me....the rock instrumental version has a fast pressing rhythm ... cannot be sung in hip hop style.
Hip hop style?
Yeah Cool Confusion in Sound System box Version is sung in hip hop style(or rap style if you prefer)
I'm not convinced myself. There's definitely a melody (though a rather weak one) being sang rather than rapped. Imo anyway.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 12:00pm
APACHES67 wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 8:13am
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 7:17am
APACHES67 wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 9:40am
I've heard this alternate version of Cool Confusion(rock instrumental version+lyriccs from hip hop version) .It doesn't work for me....the rock instrumental version has a fast pressing rhythm ... cannot be sung in hip hop style.
Hip hop style?
Yeah Cool Confusion in Sound System box Version is sung in hip hop style(or rap style if you prefer)
I'm not convinced myself. There's definitely a melody (though a rather weak one) being sang rather than rapped. Imo anyway.
I think the definitions are more ambiguous than rapping being just atonal. There is plenty of melody based vocals that are considered hip hop. Maybe not in 1981, but certainly today.

I wouldn't describe CC as hip hop style myself, but I don't think it's too far off. Some of it drifts in and out of melody ("that reactive spark" line for example).
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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I think a like all the versions of CC
I remember trying to convert a friend to like the clash, without much success and one day he came back to me saying "that's it I'm a fan, I understood the clash thanks to the song CC"
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bazarboy75 wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 12:11pm
I think a like all the versions of CC
I remember trying to convert a friend to like the clash, without much success and one day he came back to me saying "that's it I'm a fan, I understood the clash thanks to the song CC"
Pure truth
"Straight to Hell", nah.
"Complete Control," not my thing.
"Safe European Home," can't get into it.
"Clampdown," just not into it.
"Cool Confusion," holy shit this is great!

Your friend is certainly unique.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Heston wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 12:00pm
APACHES67 wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 8:13am
Marky Dread wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 7:17am
APACHES67 wrote:
18 Apr 2022, 9:40am
I've heard this alternate version of Cool Confusion(rock instrumental version+lyriccs from hip hop version) .It doesn't work for me....the rock instrumental version has a fast pressing rhythm ... cannot be sung in hip hop style.
Hip hop style?
Yeah Cool Confusion in Sound System box Version is sung in hip hop style(or rap style if you prefer)
I'm not convinced myself. There's definitely a melody (though a rather weak one) being sang rather than rapped. Imo anyway.
I'm with Heston. I don't think of hip hop or rap when I listen to CC.
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Anyone seen this before? Combat Frock. Track 1 is about our mate 101W.


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laxman wrote:
19 Apr 2022, 1:55pm
Anyone seen this before? Combat Frock. Track 1 is about our mate 101W.

Was playing this on YouTube only yesterday. I think Emily is great. I imagine revbob would like her.
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