Has anyone done a list of the songs Joe and Glyn Johns added guitar to?YoungParisians wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:42pmSame here. There are a lot of demos I wanted to hear. Here's the sessionography compiled by matedog:
https://clashcity.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 75#p559430
April 1981
Studio - Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square
This is Radio Clash
Car Jamming
Sean Flynn
September 1981
Studio - Ear Studios, The People's Hall
Overpowered by Funk
Long Time Jerk
Midnight to Stevens (1981-09-17)
Should I Stay Or Should I Go
First Night Back in London
Know Your Rights
Inoculated City
Ghetto Defendant
November/December 1981
Studio - Electric Lady, NY
Atom Tan
Cool Confusion
Straight to Hell
Red Angel Dragnet
Idle in Kangaroo Court
Beautiful People Are Ugly Too
Rock the Casbah
Death is a Star
April 1982
Studio - Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford
Know Your Rights (rerecording vocals)
Should I Stay or Should I Go (rerecorded vocals)
Ghetto Defendant (rerecorded vocal)
Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?
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I think Glynn Jones has made a great job, he improved all the songs from the original versions in Rat Patrol, except for the hateful cut of Inoculated City but is not his fault, there wasn't enough space on vinyl. You could imagine what could be a double Combat Rock mixed by Glynn Jones....a double masterpiece. I'm agree with Heston(I too miss the long original version of Inoculated City that is a great song, i hate the cut one) and Young Parisians(i think Outside Bond's is useless, is not a song, every time I will listen to the record, I will skip this useless track), so I feel disappointed for this two reasons and more....why side D is blank? There was enough to fill the empty side D(i miss Walk Evil Talk, Once You Know, Cool Confusion instrumental, Cool Confusion edit, the instrumental from DVD Hell W10,...why First Night Back in London is cut? I miss the whole song...I'm Happy for the release of The People's Hall, but at the same time i feel disappointed. I like He Who Dares Or Is Tired(for me has a connection with Hitsville U.K. and Drummin' Man, nice sax and nice rhythm), Know Your Rights is not good as the official, but is the best alternate i've heard, interesting, i like Radio One, yes is from 1980 but better this track than the useless Outside Bond's. I understood the records companies always decided to leave one or more songs out....that's business....they will put what we miss in a future version of the album and once again they will catch our money because they know we love The Clash... No CBS...No Claim With Bluff and Swindle.
Re: Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?
No idea what other overdubs were done by Glyn.IkarisOne wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:52pmHas anyone done a list of the songs Joe and Glyn Johns added guitar to?YoungParisians wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:42pmSame here. There are a lot of demos I wanted to hear. Here's the sessionography compiled by matedog:
https://clashcity.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 75#p559430
April 1981
Studio - Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square
This is Radio Clash
Car Jamming
Sean Flynn
September 1981
Studio - Ear Studios, The People's Hall
Overpowered by Funk
Long Time Jerk
Midnight to Stevens (1981-09-17)
Should I Stay Or Should I Go
First Night Back in London
Know Your Rights
Inoculated City
Ghetto Defendant
November/December 1981
Studio - Electric Lady, NY
Atom Tan
Cool Confusion
Straight to Hell
Red Angel Dragnet
Idle in Kangaroo Court
Beautiful People Are Ugly Too
Rock the Casbah
Death is a Star
April 1982
Studio - Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford
Know Your Rights (rerecording vocals)
Should I Stay or Should I Go (rerecorded vocals)
Ghetto Defendant (rerecorded vocal)
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?
What is Once You Know? How have I not heard of this?Equaliser wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 12:47pmI am super pissed that they did not include Once You Know, Cool Confusion, Mustapha Dance, Over Powered By Funk extended mix and the Ranking Roger dubs. They also could have included more of the Rat Patrol alt-versions especially the extended STH, Alt- SISOSIG etc etc... Walk Evil Talk?
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Tymon Dogg song.Kory wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 6:03pmWhat is Once You Know? How have I not heard of this?Equaliser wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 12:47pmI am super pissed that they did not include Once You Know, Cool Confusion, Mustapha Dance, Over Powered By Funk extended mix and the Ranking Roger dubs. They also could have included more of the Rat Patrol alt-versions especially the extended STH, Alt- SISOSIG etc etc... Walk Evil Talk?
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matedog wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:56pmNo idea what other overdubs were done by Glyn.IkarisOne wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:52pmHas anyone done a list of the songs Joe and Glyn Johns added guitar to?YoungParisians wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:42pmSame here. There are a lot of demos I wanted to hear. Here's the sessionography compiled by matedog:
https://clashcity.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 75#p559430
April 1981
Studio - Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square
This is Radio Clash
Car Jamming
Sean Flynn
September 1981
Studio - Ear Studios, The People's Hall
Overpowered by Funk
Long Time Jerk
Midnight to Stevens (1981-09-17)
Should I Stay Or Should I Go
First Night Back in London
Know Your Rights
Inoculated City
Ghetto Defendant
November/December 1981
Studio - Electric Lady, NY
Atom Tan
Cool Confusion
Straight to Hell
Red Angel Dragnet
Idle in Kangaroo Court
Beautiful People Are Ugly Too
Rock the Casbah
Death is a Star
April 1982
Studio - Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford
Know Your Rights (rerecording vocals)
Should I Stay or Should I Go (rerecorded vocals)
Ghetto Defendant (rerecorded vocal)
We can't tell from playing the two versions and see which has more Joe?
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Edit: beaten
So will we get Rat Patrol for the 50rh anniversary
So will we get Rat Patrol for the 50rh anniversary
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Looking at that schedule I really wonder what kinds of drugs were floating around Washington Square Park at the time. The Ear sessions seem mostly to be tracks they'd written and rehearsed and are relatively conventional Clash songs. Aside from RTC and STH the Electric Lady tracks are all insane. Not a value judgment, just an objective analysis.matedog wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:56pmNo idea what other overdubs were done by Glyn.IkarisOne wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:52pmHas anyone done a list of the songs Joe and Glyn Johns added guitar to?YoungParisians wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:42pmSame here. There are a lot of demos I wanted to hear. Here's the sessionography compiled by matedog:
https://clashcity.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 75#p559430
April 1981
Studio - Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square
This is Radio Clash
Car Jamming
Sean Flynn
September 1981
Studio - Ear Studios, The People's Hall
Overpowered by Funk
Long Time Jerk
Midnight to Stevens (1981-09-17)
Should I Stay Or Should I Go
First Night Back in London
Know Your Rights
Inoculated City
Ghetto Defendant
November/December 1981
Studio - Electric Lady, NY
Atom Tan
Cool Confusion
Straight to Hell
Red Angel Dragnet
Idle in Kangaroo Court
Beautiful People Are Ugly Too
Rock the Casbah
Death is a Star
April 1982
Studio - Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford
Know Your Rights (rerecording vocals)
Should I Stay or Should I Go (rerecorded vocals)
Ghetto Defendant (rerecorded vocal)
Re: Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?
Car Jamming I think got a rerecord with Glyn. There's some of Joe's delivery on the vocals that differ from the Rat Patrol version. It doesn't sound like it was a full on rerecord, but maybe just a few lines here and there. I'd also be willing to be that was one of the songs that Joe added more guitar to.IkarisOne wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 6:05pmmatedog wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:56pmNo idea what other overdubs were done by Glyn.IkarisOne wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:52pmHas anyone done a list of the songs Joe and Glyn Johns added guitar to?YoungParisians wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:42pmSame here. There are a lot of demos I wanted to hear. Here's the sessionography compiled by matedog:
https://clashcity.com/boards/viewtopic. ... 75#p559430
April 1981
Studio - Marcus Music, Kensington Gardens Square
This is Radio Clash
Car Jamming
Sean Flynn
September 1981
Studio - Ear Studios, The People's Hall
Overpowered by Funk
Long Time Jerk
Midnight to Stevens (1981-09-17)
Should I Stay Or Should I Go
First Night Back in London
Know Your Rights
Inoculated City
Ghetto Defendant
November/December 1981
Studio - Electric Lady, NY
Atom Tan
Cool Confusion
Straight to Hell
Red Angel Dragnet
Idle in Kangaroo Court
Beautiful People Are Ugly Too
Rock the Casbah
Death is a Star
April 1982
Studio - Glyn Johns Garden Studio, Warnford
Know Your Rights (rerecording vocals)
Should I Stay or Should I Go (rerecorded vocals)
Ghetto Defendant (rerecorded vocal)
We can't tell from playing the two versions and see which has more Joe?
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Yes the A-side: This Is Radio ClashHeston wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:25pmI always just thought it was called Radio Clash as per the original single release and Super Black Market Clash.matedog wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 5:08pmI mean it's a dumb way to title it, but they seemed to just be carrying over a bad idea from Sound System.
B-side: Radio Clash
Of course it was really one long track but they couldn't fit it on one side of vinyl. That's why I edited them back together as the "Full version".
They even got the wrong version on Super Black Market Clash.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
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Wait, what? Don't think I'm familiar with this.Marky Dread wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 6:41pm
They even got the wrong version on Super Black Market Clash.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Kory wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 6:03pmWhat is Once You Know? How have I not heard of this?Equaliser wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 12:47pmI am super pissed that they did not include Once You Know, Cool Confusion, Mustapha Dance, Over Powered By Funk extended mix and the Ranking Roger dubs. They also could have included more of the Rat Patrol alt-versions especially the extended STH, Alt- SISOSIG etc etc... Walk Evil Talk?
Per the description:
On the 10th anniversary of the death of my extraordinary friend Joe Strummer I'd like to share an un-released track I recorded with The Clash around the time they were making Combat Rock. The full track is 8 minutes long, here is 3 minutes' worth, much of it instrumental, with an accompanying video shot just this week. The Clash played magnificently on the track - Joe and Mick on guitars, Topper on drums and percussion, Paul on bass and me, Tymon Dogg, on keyboard, violin and vocals. When we were rehearsing the song, Joe remarked 'it sounds like a Casbah' and Topper, Paul and Joe started shouting 'Rock the casbah, Man'... That's how the chorus of one of the most famous tracks by The Clash came about.'
Basically the Lose This Skin of the Combat Rock sessions. Not sure which specific session. I'd assume Electric Lady since we know Tymon is on Death is a Star.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Re: Combat Rock 40th anniversary reissue coming soon?
You know what? Combat Rock is a pretty decent little record.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
Pex Lives!
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Was listed wrong on the artwork. So labelled wrongly.matedog wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 6:59pmWait, what? Don't think I'm familiar with this.Marky Dread wrote: ↑19 May 2022, 6:41pm
They even got the wrong version on Super Black Market Clash.
The original version of the revised artwork also introduced a new error by listing "Radio Clash" as "This Is Radio Clash" (the former song, which appears on the album, is the b-side to the latter song which does not), but this was corrected on later pressings.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
"Without the common people you're nothing"
Nos Sumus Una Familia
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I just love how weird it is.
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