Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
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Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
If you listen to the breakdown of If Music Could Talk vs Revolution Rock, those are different bass players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOX-eYxVVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poPVZvCY5ZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOX-eYxVVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poPVZvCY5ZI
Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
There's some interesting seemingly off key note he hits during the "oh my corazon" part on Spanish Bombs that I've never noticed. It's a bit of a passing tone.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
I think it's just a D note on the bass against a G chord on the keys/guitar.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
Paul on Revolution Rock and Watt-Roy on IMCT I reckon.marxwallace wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 4:38pmIf you listen to the breakdown of If Music Could Talk vs Revolution Rock, those are different bass players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOX-eYxVVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poPVZvCY5ZI
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
Weird. It seems a bit jarring, but my sense of tone is pretty awful.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
There's certainly more fluidity on IMCT, particularly the sliding. Paul only played with a pick and NWR only played without right? Not sure if people with more astute bass ears can decipher on either track.Heston wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 4:53pmPaul on Revolution Rock and Watt-Roy on IMCT I reckon.marxwallace wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 4:38pmIf you listen to the breakdown of If Music Could Talk vs Revolution Rock, those are different bass players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOX-eYxVVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poPVZvCY5ZI
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
Yeah, I could here it too, but I don't play any instruments, so I can't really analyze it too much, but it does sound "off". Heston's explanation probably nailed it
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Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung
Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung
Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
I never noticed that either. The whole phrase there is D-E-B (V-VI-III over the G). I historically have only played a D there.
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Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
Ah, it's the E which makes sense as being somewhat jarring over a G chord.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
The the VI tone isn't going to be the most consonant. It does prick up the ears though. However, Gmaj is the III tone in an Emin scale, so it goes back and forth I guess.
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Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
Paul played fingerstyle on Bankrobber, and on stage occasionally as well (see KYR footage). RR definitely sounds fingerstyle to me, whereas IMCT could be pickstyle, if we assume the high end has been rolled off the amp. Both tracks have Paul-style flubs within, so I'm not convinced they aren't both Paul, or both the same player, at any rate. I'd imagine they played a lot of shows between recording LC and S! — that's basically practice every night. He could have improved that much over a few months. Otherwise, it's probably Mick.matedog wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 5:06pmThere's certainly more fluidity on IMCT, particularly the sliding. Paul only played with a pick and NWR only played without right? Not sure if people with more astute bass ears can decipher on either track.Heston wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 4:53pmPaul on Revolution Rock and Watt-Roy on IMCT I reckon.marxwallace wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 4:38pmIf you listen to the breakdown of If Music Could Talk vs Revolution Rock, those are different bass players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOX-eYxVVo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poPVZvCY5ZI
"Suck our Earth dick, Martians!" —Doc
Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
The Clash FAQ book has Paul as on IMCT, though I don't think that book is definitive. Your feedback on anything bass-centric is always appreciated.Kory wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 5:45pmPaul played fingerstyle on Bankrobber, and on stage occasionally as well (see KYR footage). RR definitely sounds fingerstyle to me, whereas IMCT could be pickstyle, if we assume the high end has been rolled off the amp. Both tracks have Paul-style flubs within, so I'm not convinced they aren't both Paul, or both the same player, at any rate. I'd imagine they played a lot of shows between recording LC and S! — that's basically practice every night. He could have improved that much over a few months. Otherwise, it's probably Mick.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
Re: Spanish Bombs Bass & Vocal Isolate
I expect almost anything S! related to be misremembered, but that track definitely doesn't sound like NWR to me.matedog wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 5:56pmThe Clash FAQ book has Paul as on IMCT, though I don't think that book is definitive. Your feedback on anything bass-centric is always appreciated.Kory wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 5:45pmPaul played fingerstyle on Bankrobber, and on stage occasionally as well (see KYR footage). RR definitely sounds fingerstyle to me, whereas IMCT could be pickstyle, if we assume the high end has been rolled off the amp. Both tracks have Paul-style flubs within, so I'm not convinced they aren't both Paul, or both the same player, at any rate. I'd imagine they played a lot of shows between recording LC and S! — that's basically practice every night. He could have improved that much over a few months. Otherwise, it's probably Mick.
"Suck our Earth dick, Martians!" —Doc