The boy band thing mystified me too. The new guys were older than the Clash when they started.KCportland wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 4:47pmReading the almost 100+ comments on my post, it's amazing the vitriol people have for not just the lineup, but for Nick, Pete and Vince themselves. Grown ass men calling these working musicians chumps, stooges and losers and, most funnily, a "boy band".
Really fascinating reaction. Here was my post btw
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I don't understand the malice towards Nick, Pete and Vince. When it should be directed towards Bernie, Kosmo Joe and Paul if anyone.
Nick, Pete, and Vince didn't ditch Topper or sack Mick.
I saw the new band live in Brixton and they were good. Not great but then Topper and Mick are a damn hard act to follow. They were irreplaceable in my opinion.
The album is simply a mess produced by someone who shouldn't have been anywhere near the recording studio. Every bad choice possible is made production wise.
Nick, Pete, and Vince didn't ditch Topper or sack Mick.
I saw the new band live in Brixton and they were good. Not great but then Topper and Mick are a damn hard act to follow. They were irreplaceable in my opinion.
The album is simply a mess produced by someone who shouldn't have been anywhere near the recording studio. Every bad choice possible is made production wise.
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Nick, Pete, and Vince are the only ones who don't merit any blame in the whole shitshow. The deserved much better than to be associated with the resulting mess.Marky Dread wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 6:01pmI don't understand the malice towards Nick, Pete and Vince. When it should be directed towards Bernie, Kosmo Joe and Paul if anyone.
Nick, Pete, and Vince didn't ditch Topper or sack Mick.
I saw the new band live in Brixton and they were good. Not great but then Topper and Mick are a damn hard act to follow. They were irreplaceable in my opinion.
The album is simply a mess produced by someone who shouldn't have been anywhere near the recording studio. Every bad choice possible is made production wise.
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Well, Vince may not have deserved betterDr. Medulla wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 6:13pmNick, Pete, and Vince are the only ones who don't merit any blame in the whole shitshow. The deserved much better than to be associated with the resulting mess.Marky Dread wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 6:01pmI don't understand the malice towards Nick, Pete and Vince. When it should be directed towards Bernie, Kosmo Joe and Paul if anyone.
Nick, Pete, and Vince didn't ditch Topper or sack Mick.
I saw the new band live in Brixton and they were good. Not great but then Topper and Mick are a damn hard act to follow. They were irreplaceable in my opinion.
The album is simply a mess produced by someone who shouldn't have been anywhere near the recording studio. Every bad choice possible is made production wise.
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Even I can't blame him for anything CTC related, bless his replacement theorist's soul.Flex wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 6:23pmWell, Vince may not have deserved betterDr. Medulla wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 6:13pmNick, Pete, and Vince are the only ones who don't merit any blame in the whole shitshow. The deserved much better than to be associated with the resulting mess.Marky Dread wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 6:01pmI don't understand the malice towards Nick, Pete and Vince. When it should be directed towards Bernie, Kosmo Joe and Paul if anyone.
Nick, Pete, and Vince didn't ditch Topper or sack Mick.
I saw the new band live in Brixton and they were good. Not great but then Topper and Mick are a damn hard act to follow. They were irreplaceable in my opinion.
The album is simply a mess produced by someone who shouldn't have been anywhere near the recording studio. Every bad choice possible is made production wise.
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I don't even understand that insult when it's leveled at the Pistols. I know you've seen some of these on FB lately with the Pistol show reviews. People just internalize whatever they've heard from somebody else and then it becomes truth.Heston wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 4:56pmThe boy band thing mystified me too. The new guys were older than the Clash when they started.KCportland wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 4:47pmReading the almost 100+ comments on my post, it's amazing the vitriol people have for not just the lineup, but for Nick, Pete and Vince themselves. Grown ass men calling these working musicians chumps, stooges and losers and, most funnily, a "boy band".
Really fascinating reaction. Here was my post btw
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The allure of pre-packaged cynicism cannot be underestimated.Kory wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 6:32pmI don't even understand that insult when it's leveled at the Pistols. I know you've seen some of these on FB lately with the Pistol show reviews. People just internalize whatever they've heard from somebody else and then it becomes truth.Heston wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 4:56pmThe boy band thing mystified me too. The new guys were older than the Clash when they started.KCportland wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 4:47pmReading the almost 100+ comments on my post, it's amazing the vitriol people have for not just the lineup, but for Nick, Pete and Vince themselves. Grown ass men calling these working musicians chumps, stooges and losers and, most funnily, a "boy band".
Really fascinating reaction. Here was my post btw
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That's the hard part for many I'm sure. The "original Clash" is so special to me and many others, it's just hard to believe that things ended the way they did. Probably easier to blame the new guys than to admit our heroes made some bad decisions.Marky Dread wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 6:01pmI don't understand the malice towards Nick, Pete and Vince. When it should be directed towards Bernie, Kosmo Joe and Paul if anyone.
Nick, Pete, and Vince didn't ditch Topper or sack Mick.
I saw the new band live in Brixton and they were good. Not great but then Topper and Mick are a damn hard act to follow. They were irreplaceable in my opinion.
The album is simply a mess produced by someone who shouldn't have been anywhere near the recording studio. Every bad choice possible is made production wise.
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Where you take one step and miss the whole first rung
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I think the problem was calling the new band "The Clash" when it clearly wasn't. If Joe, Paul, Vince etc. called their band something else, ANYTHING else, it wouldn't be so bad. Yes, the record they made was, in ironic fact, crap, but the fact that said crap had "The Clash" on it pretty much guaranteed failure because it just wasn't "The Clash" anymore.
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'The Crash".weller259 wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 9:57pmI think the problem was calling the new band "The Clash" when it clearly wasn't. If Joe, Paul, Vince etc. called their band something else, ANYTHING else, it wouldn't be so bad. Yes, the record they made was, in ironic fact, crap, but the fact that said crap had "The Clash" on it pretty much guaranteed failure because it just wasn't "The Clash" anymore.
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Bernard Rhodes' All-Clash Revue featuring J. Strummer and His Players
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like they did for house of the juju queen - janie jones & the lash. could just shorten it more - the ash.Marky Dread wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 3:58am'The Crash".weller259 wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 9:57pmI think the problem was calling the new band "The Clash" when it clearly wasn't. If Joe, Paul, Vince etc. called their band something else, ANYTHING else, it wouldn't be so bad. Yes, the record they made was, in ironic fact, crap, but the fact that said crap had "The Clash" on it pretty much guaranteed failure because it just wasn't "The Clash" anymore.
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"The Lash" in context was quite clever though.ohsoso wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 9:38amlike they did for house of the juju queen - janie jones & the lash. could just shorten it more - the ash.Marky Dread wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 3:58am'The Crash".weller259 wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 9:57pmI think the problem was calling the new band "The Clash" when it clearly wasn't. If Joe, Paul, Vince etc. called their band something else, ANYTHING else, it wouldn't be so bad. Yes, the record they made was, in ironic fact, crap, but the fact that said crap had "The Clash" on it pretty much guaranteed failure because it just wasn't "The Clash" anymore.
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Good god, that yellow border.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I just see a great big block of yellow in my phone. Then all goes to normal.
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