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Toppers Boppers wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 2:24pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 4:29am
Low Down Low wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 3:52am
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 12:18pm
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10 Jul 2022, 6:55am


Totally agree. Anyone who can say they didn't do at least one dumb embarrassing thing in their teens/early 20s, i would just say has never lived. Certainly did Chrissie or Steve no harm anyway. Actually went back and listened to the Visage album a couple of nights back and reminded how good it is, really choc full of sublime 80s pop.
Midge Ure totally underrated.
I'd even forgotten he was involved tbh. From Thin Lizzy to Visage was quite the direction change! A very talented guy for sure.
Slik/PVC2/Rich Kids/Thin Lizzy/Visage/Ultravox/Band Aid/Solo. A very varied career and loads of hits and he's been involved with 3 number ones I think.
Yeah, an amazing and unmatched journey in music, the story about Bernie and Malcolm asking him to front the Pistols when they were in Glasgow (the offer declined of course) in late summer 1975 is hysterical. Have seen Midge on his recent tours, his band completely nailed that early eighties synth sound and he's got so many great songs to draw on including Marching Men on his last tour.
I got a lot of time for Midge. McLaren wanted the Pistols to rival the Bay City Rollers so the Midge thing isn't as crazy as it seems. Obviously it was before John joined the band. Not surprising Midge who had already had a number one single with Slik didn't want to join a bunch of unknowns.
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Re: Topper with the Moors Murderers

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Marky Dread wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 3:34pm
Toppers Boppers wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 2:24pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 4:29am
Low Down Low wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 3:52am
Marky Dread wrote:
10 Jul 2022, 12:18pm


Midge Ure totally underrated.
I'd even forgotten he was involved tbh. From Thin Lizzy to Visage was quite the direction change! A very talented guy for sure.
Slik/PVC2/Rich Kids/Thin Lizzy/Visage/Ultravox/Band Aid/Solo. A very varied career and loads of hits and he's been involved with 3 number ones I think.
Yeah, an amazing and unmatched journey in music, the story about Bernie and Malcolm asking him to front the Pistols when they were in Glasgow (the offer declined of course) in late summer 1975 is hysterical. Have seen Midge on his recent tours, his band completely nailed that early eighties synth sound and he's got so many great songs to draw on including Marching Men on his last tour.
I got a lot of time for Midge. McLaren wanted the Pistols to rival the Bay City Rollers so the Midge thing isn't as crazy as it seems. Obviously it was before John joined the band. Not surprising Midge who had already had a number one single with Slik didn't want to join a bunch of unknowns.
Yes, it was before Lydon was approached, I read Midge was put off by 'weirdo' McLaren waffling on in the back of his car, but still bought a knock-off amp from him. This would have been a few months before Slik hit #1 in January 1976.

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Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 3:27am
Marky Dread wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 3:34pm
Toppers Boppers wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 2:24pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 4:29am
Low Down Low wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 3:52am


I'd even forgotten he was involved tbh. From Thin Lizzy to Visage was quite the direction change! A very talented guy for sure.
Slik/PVC2/Rich Kids/Thin Lizzy/Visage/Ultravox/Band Aid/Solo. A very varied career and loads of hits and he's been involved with 3 number ones I think.
Yeah, an amazing and unmatched journey in music, the story about Bernie and Malcolm asking him to front the Pistols when they were in Glasgow (the offer declined of course) in late summer 1975 is hysterical. Have seen Midge on his recent tours, his band completely nailed that early eighties synth sound and he's got so many great songs to draw on including Marching Men on his last tour.
I got a lot of time for Midge. McLaren wanted the Pistols to rival the Bay City Rollers so the Midge thing isn't as crazy as it seems. Obviously it was before John joined the band. Not surprising Midge who had already had a number one single with Slik didn't want to join a bunch of unknowns.
Yes, it was before Lydon was approached, I read Midge was put off by 'weirdo' McLaren waffling on in the back of his car, but still bought a knock-off amp from him. This would have been a few months before Slik hit #1 in January 1976.
Yeah my timeline is out by a few months. February for one week apparently. I think that was the second Slik single to be released. So Midge must've been thinking who are this pair of chancers when Bernie and Malcolm showed up. From all accounts Midge new a good bargain when he saw one. I wonder if Malcolm even knew who he was. Or was aware when Slik had the number one that Midge was that guy.
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Re: Topper with the Moors Murderers

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Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 4:48am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 3:27am
Marky Dread wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 3:34pm
Toppers Boppers wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 2:24pm
Marky Dread wrote:
11 Jul 2022, 4:29am


Slik/PVC2/Rich Kids/Thin Lizzy/Visage/Ultravox/Band Aid/Solo. A very varied career and loads of hits and he's been involved with 3 number ones I think.
Yeah, an amazing and unmatched journey in music, the story about Bernie and Malcolm asking him to front the Pistols when they were in Glasgow (the offer declined of course) in late summer 1975 is hysterical. Have seen Midge on his recent tours, his band completely nailed that early eighties synth sound and he's got so many great songs to draw on including Marching Men on his last tour.
I got a lot of time for Midge. McLaren wanted the Pistols to rival the Bay City Rollers so the Midge thing isn't as crazy as it seems. Obviously it was before John joined the band. Not surprising Midge who had already had a number one single with Slik didn't want to join a bunch of unknowns.
Yes, it was before Lydon was approached, I read Midge was put off by 'weirdo' McLaren waffling on in the back of his car, but still bought a knock-off amp from him. This would have been a few months before Slik hit #1 in January 1976.
I wonder if Malcolm even knew who he was. Or was aware when Slik had the number one that Midge was that guy.
Who knows, probably not, although he was getting more astute about the music biz as things developed.

You probably read it before, but here's Midge's take of that encounter...
midge1.jpg
midge2.jpg

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Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:02am
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 4:48am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 3:27am
Marky Dread wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 3:34pm
Toppers Boppers wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 2:24pm


Yeah, an amazing and unmatched journey in music, the story about Bernie and Malcolm asking him to front the Pistols when they were in Glasgow (the offer declined of course) in late summer 1975 is hysterical. Have seen Midge on his recent tours, his band completely nailed that early eighties synth sound and he's got so many great songs to draw on including Marching Men on his last tour.
I got a lot of time for Midge. McLaren wanted the Pistols to rival the Bay City Rollers so the Midge thing isn't as crazy as it seems. Obviously it was before John joined the band. Not surprising Midge who had already had a number one single with Slik didn't want to join a bunch of unknowns.
Yes, it was before Lydon was approached, I read Midge was put off by 'weirdo' McLaren waffling on in the back of his car, but still bought a knock-off amp from him. This would have been a few months before Slik hit #1 in January 1976.
I wonder if Malcolm even knew who he was. Or was aware when Slik had the number one that Midge was that guy.
Who knows, probably not, although he was getting more astute about the music biz as things developed.

You probably read it before, but here's Midge's take of that encounter...

midge1.jpg
midge2.jpg
Yeah I have Midge's book. It's a good read. I've read so many books on the Pistols and related that I literally have to go back and check certain facts as there are so many contradictions in them.
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Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

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Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:52am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:02am
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 4:48am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 3:27am
Marky Dread wrote:
29 Mar 2025, 3:34pm


I got a lot of time for Midge. McLaren wanted the Pistols to rival the Bay City Rollers so the Midge thing isn't as crazy as it seems. Obviously it was before John joined the band. Not surprising Midge who had already had a number one single with Slik didn't want to join a bunch of unknowns.
Yes, it was before Lydon was approached, I read Midge was put off by 'weirdo' McLaren waffling on in the back of his car, but still bought a knock-off amp from him. This would have been a few months before Slik hit #1 in January 1976.
I wonder if Malcolm even knew who he was. Or was aware when Slik had the number one that Midge was that guy.
Who knows, probably not, although he was getting more astute about the music biz as things developed.

You probably read it before, but here's Midge's take of that encounter...

midge1.jpg
midge2.jpg
Yeah I have Midge's book. It's a good read. I've read so many books on the Pistols and related that I literally have to go back and check certain facts as there are so many contradictions in them.
God, yeah. It's one of the things I like about reading memoirs from different band members, but if you go deep enough, all those different accounts must become kind of overwhelming. We think there's such a thing as an objective truth, but even with a full time 24 hour film crew, we ain't getting it.
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Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:04am
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:52am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:02am
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 4:48am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 3:27am


Yes, it was before Lydon was approached, I read Midge was put off by 'weirdo' McLaren waffling on in the back of his car, but still bought a knock-off amp from him. This would have been a few months before Slik hit #1 in January 1976.
I wonder if Malcolm even knew who he was. Or was aware when Slik had the number one that Midge was that guy.
Who knows, probably not, although he was getting more astute about the music biz as things developed.

You probably read it before, but here's Midge's take of that encounter...

midge1.jpg
midge2.jpg
Yeah I have Midge's book. It's a good read. I've read so many books on the Pistols and related that I literally have to go back and check certain facts as there are so many contradictions in them.
God, yeah. It's one of the things I like about reading memoirs from different band members, but if you go deep enough, all those different accounts must become kind of overwhelming. We think there's such a thing as an objective truth, but even with a full time 24 hour film crew, we ain't getting it.
Exactly mate. Sometimes the spaces between the lines are where the answers lay.
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Curfews have been curbing
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Re: Topper with the Moors Murderers

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Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:44am
Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:04am
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:52am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:02am
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 4:48am


I wonder if Malcolm even knew who he was. Or was aware when Slik had the number one that Midge was that guy.
Who knows, probably not, although he was getting more astute about the music biz as things developed.

You probably read it before, but here's Midge's take of that encounter...

midge1.jpg
midge2.jpg
Yeah I have Midge's book. It's a good read. I've read so many books on the Pistols and related that I literally have to go back and check certain facts as there are so many contradictions in them.
God, yeah. It's one of the things I like about reading memoirs from different band members, but if you go deep enough, all those different accounts must become kind of overwhelming. We think there's such a thing as an objective truth, but even with a full time 24 hour film crew, we ain't getting it.
Exactly mate. Sometimes the spaces between the lines are where the answers lay.
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Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 12:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:44am
Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:04am
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:52am
Toppers Boppers wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:02am


Who knows, probably not, although he was getting more astute about the music biz as things developed.

You probably read it before, but here's Midge's take of that encounter...

midge1.jpg
midge2.jpg
Yeah I have Midge's book. It's a good read. I've read so many books on the Pistols and related that I literally have to go back and check certain facts as there are so many contradictions in them.
God, yeah. It's one of the things I like about reading memoirs from different band members, but if you go deep enough, all those different accounts must become kind of overwhelming. We think there's such a thing as an objective truth, but even with a full time 24 hour film crew, we ain't getting it.
Exactly mate. Sometimes the spaces between the lines are where the answers lay.
Sherlock Dread's on the case.
Worlds worst sleuth. Aka the defective detective. :mrgreen:
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The end of liberty


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Re: Topper with the Moors Murderers

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Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 12:55pm
Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 12:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:44am
Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:04am
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 10:52am


Yeah I have Midge's book. It's a good read. I've read so many books on the Pistols and related that I literally have to go back and check certain facts as there are so many contradictions in them.
God, yeah. It's one of the things I like about reading memoirs from different band members, but if you go deep enough, all those different accounts must become kind of overwhelming. We think there's such a thing as an objective truth, but even with a full time 24 hour film crew, we ain't getting it.
Exactly mate. Sometimes the spaces between the lines are where the answers lay.
Sherlock Dread's on the case.
Worlds worst sleuth. Aka the defective detective. :mrgreen:
Like me as Columbo. "Okay, sir. Yes, I see. That makes sense, you were at the cocktail bar at the time. There's just.... seventeen things I don't understand."
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Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 1:00pm
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 12:55pm
Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 12:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:44am
Silent Majority wrote:
31 Mar 2025, 11:04am


God, yeah. It's one of the things I like about reading memoirs from different band members, but if you go deep enough, all those different accounts must become kind of overwhelming. We think there's such a thing as an objective truth, but even with a full time 24 hour film crew, we ain't getting it.
Exactly mate. Sometimes the spaces between the lines are where the answers lay.
Sherlock Dread's on the case.
Worlds worst sleuth. Aka the defective detective. :mrgreen:
Like me as Columbo. "Okay, sir. Yes, I see. That makes sense, you were at the cocktail bar at the time. There's just.... seventeen things I don't understand."
You would look ace in a Colombo mac. :mrgreen:
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Forces have been looting
My humanity
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The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

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