coffeepotman wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 8:54amSimpsons jokes are kinda like Markys remixes, sometimes they jump right out at you and clobber you on the head and sometimes they just hit you later on when you least expect it. It's pretty brilliantweller259 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:13amits really THAT good? I could be convinced but on my own it just hasn't appealed to me. I will readily admit to my tastes in everything being weird and inconsistent. I also am not a big fan of that style of animation which is another reason i've never watched it, it just bores the shit out of me visually. I will consider this due to the remarks and find the Simpsons thread if I decide to try it.
The Beatles, huh? The highest of praise. But I don't know ......
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That People's Hall release was pitiful. Marky's stuff is on a different level.jnadams99 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 8:55amI have to say every time an official re-release happens like Combat Rock, I can't help but wonder what Marky would have done if the record label could have seen fit to commission him for a reissue.
Oh well, at least we get to enjoy his labors of love on this forum.
Excellent job as always on the Sandinista Box Set!!!!
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This set, coming on the heels of the CR “deluxe” treatment just mocks the official into disintegration. One set says this is an important band that merits preservation and contextualization; the other says, yeah, this'll do, I guess.Heston wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 9:43amThat People's Hall release was pitiful. Marky's stuff is on a different level.jnadams99 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 8:55amI have to say every time an official re-release happens like Combat Rock, I can't help but wonder what Marky would have done if the record label could have seen fit to commission him for a reissue.
Oh well, at least we get to enjoy his labors of love on this forum.
Excellent job as always on the Sandinista Box Set!!!!
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Cheers Heston and doc. I don't think the band can be blamed as I feel they are still battling the record company. A record company that clearly cares less and less with each release.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:00amThis set, coming on the heels of the CR “deluxe” treatment just mocks the official into disintegration. One set says this is an important band that merits preservation and contextualization; the other says, yeah, this'll do, I guess.Heston wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 9:43amThat People's Hall release was pitiful. Marky's stuff is on a different level.jnadams99 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 8:55amI have to say every time an official re-release happens like Combat Rock, I can't help but wonder what Marky would have done if the record label could have seen fit to commission him for a reissue.
Oh well, at least we get to enjoy his labors of love on this forum.
Excellent job as always on the Sandinista Box Set!!!!
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The lion's share of the blame has to be the record company, but I don't get the sense that within the Clash camp there's great interest in properly curating this stuff either. Which, fair enough if they think it's over and done. But what is coming out under their name as legacy work isn't high quality.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:11pmCheers Heston and doc. I don't think the band can be blamed as I feel they are still battling the record company. A record company that clearly cares less and less with each release.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:00amThis set, coming on the heels of the CR “deluxe” treatment just mocks the official into disintegration. One set says this is an important band that merits preservation and contextualization; the other says, yeah, this'll do, I guess.Heston wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 9:43amThat People's Hall release was pitiful. Marky's stuff is on a different level.jnadams99 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 8:55amI have to say every time an official re-release happens like Combat Rock, I can't help but wonder what Marky would have done if the record label could have seen fit to commission him for a reissue.
Oh well, at least we get to enjoy his labors of love on this forum.
Excellent job as always on the Sandinista Box Set!!!!
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Re: Sandinista! Deluxe box set.
I thought we had a solid confirmation that this was a band led decision? At least not doing Rat Patrol.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:11pmCheers Heston and doc. I don't think the band can be blamed as I feel they are still battling the record company. A record company that clearly cares less and less with each release.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:00amThis set, coming on the heels of the CR “deluxe” treatment just mocks the official into disintegration. One set says this is an important band that merits preservation and contextualization; the other says, yeah, this'll do, I guess.Heston wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 9:43amThat People's Hall release was pitiful. Marky's stuff is on a different level.jnadams99 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 8:55amI have to say every time an official re-release happens like Combat Rock, I can't help but wonder what Marky would have done if the record label could have seen fit to commission him for a reissue.
Oh well, at least we get to enjoy his labors of love on this forum.
Excellent job as always on the Sandinista Box Set!!!!
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Well yeah but then regards Rat Patrol people here were getting annoyed about getting a release. However in fairness to Mick his stance had always been it was never going to get a full release. He had already relented with the tracks included in Sound System. Also it showed it had nothing to do with a financial stance as the band would've made a hell of a lot more money from it's release.matedog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:31pmI thought we had a solid confirmation that this was a band led decision? At least not doing Rat Patrol.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:11pmCheers Heston and doc. I don't think the band can be blamed as I feel they are still battling the record company. A record company that clearly cares less and less with each release.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:00amThis set, coming on the heels of the CR “deluxe” treatment just mocks the official into disintegration. One set says this is an important band that merits preservation and contextualization; the other says, yeah, this'll do, I guess.Heston wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 9:43amThat People's Hall release was pitiful. Marky's stuff is on a different level.jnadams99 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 8:55amI have to say every time an official re-release happens like Combat Rock, I can't help but wonder what Marky would have done if the record label could have seen fit to commission him for a reissue.
Oh well, at least we get to enjoy his labors of love on this forum.
Excellent job as always on the Sandinista Box Set!!!!
Sadly this left the CR release a bit on the thin side for fans like us who already have everything including Rat Patrol.
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Mick has a lot of unreleased stuff. That will be properly curated in his archive. If he sees fit to release any of it that's for us to see. I doubt Sony care that much in promoting The Clash as much as we would like.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:31pmThe lion's share of the blame has to be the record company, but I don't get the sense that within the Clash camp there's great interest in properly curating this stuff either. Which, fair enough if they think it's over and done. But what is coming out under their name as legacy work isn't high quality.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:11pmCheers Heston and doc. I don't think the band can be blamed as I feel they are still battling the record company. A record company that clearly cares less and less with each release.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:00amThis set, coming on the heels of the CR “deluxe” treatment just mocks the official into disintegration. One set says this is an important band that merits preservation and contextualization; the other says, yeah, this'll do, I guess.Heston wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 9:43amThat People's Hall release was pitiful. Marky's stuff is on a different level.jnadams99 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 8:55amI have to say every time an official re-release happens like Combat Rock, I can't help but wonder what Marky would have done if the record label could have seen fit to commission him for a reissue.
Oh well, at least we get to enjoy his labors of love on this forum.
Excellent job as always on the Sandinista Box Set!!!!
Remember the band had always seen CBS/Sony as the enemy and hated being tied into their contract.
But maybe better the devil you know.
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Yup, I completely get that. I guess I'd rather the band just flat-out reject these re-releases if they're going to be half-arsed. One of the things the band was deservedly known for was value for the money. If it ain't value for the money, don't release anything.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 2:04pmMick has a lot of unreleased stuff. That will be properly curated in his archive. If he sees fit to release any of it that's for us to see. I doubt Sony care that much in promoting The Clash as much as we would like.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:31pmThe lion's share of the blame has to be the record company, but I don't get the sense that within the Clash camp there's great interest in properly curating this stuff either. Which, fair enough if they think it's over and done. But what is coming out under their name as legacy work isn't high quality.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:11pmCheers Heston and doc. I don't think the band can be blamed as I feel they are still battling the record company. A record company that clearly cares less and less with each release.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:00amThis set, coming on the heels of the CR “deluxe” treatment just mocks the official into disintegration. One set says this is an important band that merits preservation and contextualization; the other says, yeah, this'll do, I guess.
Remember the band had always seen CBS/Sony as the enemy and hated being tied into their contract.
But maybe better the devil you know.
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I guess it's difficult to know what exactly is stated in that contract. Are they obliged to release anything and have a say or can the label go ahead and release stuff regardless.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 2:15pmYup, I completely get that. I guess I'd rather the band just flat-out reject these re-releases if they're going to be half-arsed. One of the things the band was deservedly known for was value for the money. If it ain't value for the money, don't release anything.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 2:04pmMick has a lot of unreleased stuff. That will be properly curated in his archive. If he sees fit to release any of it that's for us to see. I doubt Sony care that much in promoting The Clash as much as we would like.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:31pmThe lion's share of the blame has to be the record company, but I don't get the sense that within the Clash camp there's great interest in properly curating this stuff either. Which, fair enough if they think it's over and done. But what is coming out under their name as legacy work isn't high quality.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 1:11pmCheers Heston and doc. I don't think the band can be blamed as I feel they are still battling the record company. A record company that clearly cares less and less with each release.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:00am
This set, coming on the heels of the CR “deluxe” treatment just mocks the official into disintegration. One set says this is an important band that merits preservation and contextualization; the other says, yeah, this'll do, I guess.
Remember the band had always seen CBS/Sony as the enemy and hated being tied into their contract.
But maybe better the devil you know.
Recently Elvis Costello has been bemoaning how a large chunk of his later albums are being re-released on colour vinyl without his consent.
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That's a really good question. The limp effort by Sony doesn't make it sound like it really wants to do this stuff, so if there is an obligation, both sides could write it out.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 3:05pmI guess it's difficult to know what exactly is stated in that contract. Are they obliged to release anything and have a say or can the label go ahead and release stuff regardless.
Recently Elvis Costello has been bemoaning how a large chunk of his later albums are being re-released on colour vinyl without his consent.
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I think Teddy mentioned the label originally wanted to do a very pricy box which the band vetoed in favor of something for consumer-friendly (if not superfan-friendly). So it would seem they have some sort of leverage.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 3:21pmThat's a really good question. The limp effort by Sony doesn't make it sound like it really wants to do this stuff, so if there is an obligation, both sides could write it out.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 3:05pmI guess it's difficult to know what exactly is stated in that contract. Are they obliged to release anything and have a say or can the label go ahead and release stuff regardless.
Recently Elvis Costello has been bemoaning how a large chunk of his later albums are being re-released on colour vinyl without his consent.
I'd be curious if industry people know more about usual practices, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of contracts let labels do straight reissues (say, new reissues on colored vinyl) but require artist approval when there are substantial changes to the contents of the record. Deluxe editions and so forth.
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Raw Power and Sandinista! Looks like I checked in just in time. Thanks Marky!
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Ah, you're right—I remember that now. I respect their logic and resistance to something pricey, but the solution that was settled on was … unsatisfying.Flex wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 3:51pmI think Teddy mentioned the label originally wanted to do a very pricy box which the band vetoed in favor of something for consumer-friendly (if not superfan-friendly). So it would seem they have some sort of leverage.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 3:21pmThat's a really good question. The limp effort by Sony doesn't make it sound like it really wants to do this stuff, so if there is an obligation, both sides could write it out.Marky Dread wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 3:05pmI guess it's difficult to know what exactly is stated in that contract. Are they obliged to release anything and have a say or can the label go ahead and release stuff regardless.
Recently Elvis Costello has been bemoaning how a large chunk of his later albums are being re-released on colour vinyl without his consent.
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You did mate.
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