Clash busking in Edinburgh

[Low Down Low]

Cool footage. Definitly that busking tour was the best idea Joe had at the time

retrospectively this group should have been called differently and that would surely have played in its favor.
Personally I'm not attracted to this incarnation, but it's precisely because of that.
because with joe as a charismatic leader your group is likely to be good if you give it time.
It's like with the mescaleros. I saw them 3 times in concerts and it was getting better and better as they played less and less Clash songs.

On the other hand the look and the haircuts, I understand the idea "to return to pure rock n roll" it does not work at all, it looks more like caricatures

Good post bb, but just to point out and my memory is fucking awful for details, but wasn't it Bernie who came up with the idea for the tour? Not that it really matters that much and could never make up for the bucket of shit he threw over so much else, just to acknowledge he did come up with the occasional decent notion every now and then. Agree entirely on the mescaleroes, thought they did some of them really well but the fewer the better was how i always saw it.

I think it maybe put forward by Bernie but it still took the band to put in the leg work and take on the idea. But really busking wasn't anything new to Joe.

I just checked the relevant passage in Ralphs and Mark's book and seems it may have been Kosmo who laid the seed for it Munich by suggesting they go away and do something together as a group and Joe and Nick then developed that into the busking tour. So not really Bernie at all when it comes down to it, at least initially!

[Marky Dread]

Cool footage. Definitly that busking tour was the best idea Joe had at the time

retrospectively this group should have been called differently and that would surely have played in its favor.
Personally I'm not attracted to this incarnation, but it's precisely because of that.
because with joe as a charismatic leader your group is likely to be good if you give it time.
It's like with the mescaleros. I saw them 3 times in concerts and it was getting better and better as they played less and less Clash songs.

On the other hand the look and the haircuts, I understand the idea "to return to pure rock n roll" it does not work at all, it looks more like caricatures

Good post bb, but just to point out and my memory is fucking awful for details, but wasn't it Bernie who came up with the idea for the tour? Not that it really matters that much and could never make up for the bucket of shit he threw over so much else, just to acknowledge he did come up with the occasional decent notion every now and then. Agree entirely on the mescaleroes, thought they did some of them really well but the fewer the better was how i always saw it.

I think it maybe put forward by Bernie but it still took the band to put in the leg work and take on the idea. But really busking wasn't anything new to Joe.

I just checked the relevant passage in Ralphs and Mark's book and seems it may have been Kosmo who laid the seed for it Munich by suggesting they go away and do something together as a group and Joe and Nick then developed that into the busking tour. So not really Bernie at all when it comes down to it, at least initially!

Sure I don't think it's that important whose idea it was. Just that it was a good idea regards team work building. Which after the Munich recordings must've been at an all time low.

[bazarboy75]

Good post bb, but just to point out and my memory is fucking awful for details, but wasn't it Bernie who came up with the idea for the tour?

I don't know really
But as MD said busking wasn't something new to Joe
+ it fit very well to the idea of back to the roots stuff

Joe should (ok it's very easy to write this years after my ass on a sit and typing on my keyboard... ) have spent all that energy creating something new

[Low Down Low]

Cool footage. Definitly that busking tour was the best idea Joe had at the time

retrospectively this group should have been called differently and that would surely have played in its favor.
Personally I'm not attracted to this incarnation, but it's precisely because of that.
because with joe as a charismatic leader your group is likely to be good if you give it time.
It's like with the mescaleros. I saw them 3 times in concerts and it was getting better and better as they played less and less Clash songs.

On the other hand the look and the haircuts, I understand the idea "to return to pure rock n roll" it does not work at all, it looks more like caricatures

Good post bb, but just to point out and my memory is fucking awful for details, but wasn't it Bernie who came up with the idea for the tour? Not that it really matters that much and could never make up for the bucket of shit he threw over so much else, just to acknowledge he did come up with the occasional decent notion every now and then. Agree entirely on the mescaleroes, thought they did some of them really well but the fewer the better was how i always saw it.

I think it maybe put forward by Bernie but it still took the band to put in the leg work and take on the idea. But really busking wasn't anything new to Joe.

I just checked the relevant passage in Ralphs and Mark's book and seems it may have been Kosmo who laid the seed for it Munich by suggesting they go away and do something together as a group and Joe and Nick then developed that into the busking tour. So not really Bernie at all when it comes down to it, at least initially!

Sure I don't think it's that important whose idea it was. Just that it was a good idea regards team work building. Which after the Munich recordings must've been at an all time low.

True, it's no elevator bell, that's for sure

[Low Down Low]

Good post bb, but just to point out and my memory is fucking awful for details, but wasn't it Bernie who came up with the idea for the tour?

I don't know really
But as MD said busking wasn't something new to Joe
+ it fit very well to the idea of back to the roots stuff

Joe should (ok it's very easy to write this years after my ass on a sit and typing on my keyboard... ) have spent all that energy creating something new

Ah yeah, was only minor point really and seems i was wrong anyway!

[motorsmell]

Cool footage. Definitly that busking tour was the best idea Joe had at the time

retrospectively this group should have been called differently and that would surely have played in its favor.
Personally I'm not attracted to this incarnation, but it's precisely because of that.
because with joe as a charismatic leader your group is likely to be good if you give it time.
It's like with the mescaleros. I saw them 3 times in concerts and it was getting better and better as they played less and less Clash songs.

On the other hand the look and the haircuts, I understand the idea "to return to pure rock n roll" it does not work at all, it looks more like caricatures

Good point. I've always had an aversion to leather trousers but the double leathers are even worse.

Agreed leather trousers are a no no unless your riding a Motorcycle.... however perhaps the double leather combo was more practical for busking purposes...water proof, wipe clean, etc...

[Low Down Low]

Cool footage. Definitly that busking tour was the best idea Joe had at the time

retrospectively this group should have been called differently and that would surely have played in its favor.
Personally I'm not attracted to this incarnation, but it's precisely because of that.
because with joe as a charismatic leader your group is likely to be good if you give it time.
It's like with the mescaleros. I saw them 3 times in concerts and it was getting better and better as they played less and less Clash songs.

On the other hand the look and the haircuts, I understand the idea "to return to pure rock n roll" it does not work at all, it looks more like caricatures

Good point. I've always had an aversion to leather trousers but the double leathers are even worse.

Agreed leather trousers are a no no unless your riding a Motorcycle.... however perhaps the double leather combo was more practical for busking purposes...water proof, wipe clean, etc...

Especially if you've got your motorcycle jacket but you're walking all the time

[motorsmell]

Cool footage. Definitly that busking tour was the best idea Joe had at the time

retrospectively this group should have been called differently and that would surely have played in its favor.
Personally I'm not attracted to this incarnation, but it's precisely because of that.
because with joe as a charismatic leader your group is likely to be good if you give it time.
It's like with the mescaleros. I saw them 3 times in concerts and it was getting better and better as they played less and less Clash songs.

On the other hand the look and the haircuts, I understand the idea "to return to pure rock n roll" it does not work at all, it looks more like caricatures

Good point. I've always had an aversion to leather trousers but the double leathers are even worse.

Agreed leather trousers are a no no unless your riding a Motorcycle.... however perhaps the double leather combo was more practical for busking purposes...water proof, wipe clean, etc...

Especially if you've got your motorcycle jacket but you're walking all the time

Exactly!

[Marky Dread]

Good post bb, but just to point out and my memory is fucking awful for details, but wasn't it Bernie who came up with the idea for the tour? Not that it really matters that much and could never make up for the bucket of shit he threw over so much else, just to acknowledge he did come up with the occasional decent notion every now and then. Agree entirely on the mescaleroes, thought they did some of them really well but the fewer the better was how i always saw it.

I think it maybe put forward by Bernie but it still took the band to put in the leg work and take on the idea. But really busking wasn't anything new to Joe.

I just checked the relevant passage in Ralphs and Mark's book and seems it may have been Kosmo who laid the seed for it Munich by suggesting they go away and do something together as a group and Joe and Nick then developed that into the busking tour. So not really Bernie at all when it comes down to it, at least initially!

Sure I don't think it's that important whose idea it was. Just that it was a good idea regards team work building. Which after the Munich recordings must've been at an all time low.

True, it's no elevator bell, that's for sure

Nothing dings like that bell.

[Kory]

Sigh. What could have been. Maybe in another timeline.

Fucking amazing. Gives me hope for a full 84 show.

We can't even get a full '80 show.

[matedog]

Sigh. What could have been. Maybe in another timeline.

Fucking amazing. Gives me hope for a full 84 show.

We can't even get a full '80 show.

We did get an abridged greatest hits show without the classic lineup 14 years ago.

[Heston]

Sigh. What could have been. Maybe in another timeline.

Fucking amazing. Gives me hope for a full 84 show.

We can't even get a full '80 show.

We did get an abridged greatest hits show without the classic lineup 14 years ago.

Fuck, was Shea 14 years ago? Damn...

[Kory]

Sigh. What could have been. Maybe in another timeline.

Fucking amazing. Gives me hope for a full 84 show.

We can't even get a full '80 show.

We did get an abridged greatest hits show without the classic lineup 14 years ago.

I think I listened to it once since I got the CD.

[Marky Dread]

Sigh. What could have been. Maybe in another timeline.

Fucking amazing. Gives me hope for a full 84 show.

We can't even get a full '80 show.

We did get an abridged greatest hits show without the classic lineup 14 years ago.

Fuck, was Shea 14 years ago? Damn...

October 1982. I wish it was 14 years ago.

[Chuck Mangione]

Love this