Missing Asbury Park footage

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Missing Asbury Park footage

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Apparently four songs exist (Know Your Rights, Clash City Rockers, Clampdown and Brand New Cadillac) that aren't available on the commonly known version. According to BMC the missing songs are "little circulated." Does anyone have them? There is a clip of CCR in this footage and it seems to have more footage of the other band members. The 8 song version that circulates concentrates almost exclusively on Joe.

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Heston wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 2:45pm
Apparently four songs exist (Know Your Rights, Clash City Rockers, Clampdown and Brand New Cadillac) that aren't available on the commonly known version. According to BMC the missing songs are "little circulated." Does anyone have them? There is a clip of CCR in this footage and it seems to have more footage of the other band members. The 8 song version that circulates concentrates almost exclusively on Joe.

Interesting. The first shot of Terry even looks like he might be playing Car Jamming.
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From BMC...

A New York cable TV station filmed the gig on the 30th and interviewed fans outside the venue earlier in the day.

A little circulating DVD has a number of unedited interviews with Mick, Paul, Kosmo and Don at Electric Ladyland in November/December 1981. Baker makes a brief appearance at one point confirming the earlier date for this footage. The DVD also though includes a 10 minute section of interviews with fans and bemused passers by outside the Convention Center plus live footage of 2 complete songs and 2 short clips. Quality is of a VHS copy and mono sound.

The footage starts with a close up of the Convention Center sign and pans out to fans waiting outside. A number of fans were at the first gig the night before “they were excellent last night” The fans comments give the lie to the myth that The Clash’s political message went over the heads of their US fans. One fan with (some seriously dated Buggles sunglasses!) responded to the interviewer with “they made me wake up to a lot things that are happening in the world..for instance revolutions, nuclear arms race, individual rights, expressing your individuality” Someone behind adds “Goddamn human rights violations in South America!”

This group held up a ghetto blaster playing Sean Flynn and were they said definitely not Springsteen fans! Some bemused tourists were interviewed including a little boy who said his bird likes the Clash!

Another group of fans said they had been waiting outside for tickets since 10am that morning. One fan who was at Bonds says it was “our anniversary today one year ago we got chased away by the Police”. Another says “Old stuff was really punk but got their own style now, can’t classify them” Another “Political?” “Yeah!” in unison. Do you follow their political beliefs “Left wing. Yeah!” They were upset by Topper’s departure but one was not aware of the band’s 1st album sleeve joke at Terry’s expense saying; “they now got Tory Crimes the original drummer”!

The footage with time code now cuts to a 30 second clip of Joe at the end of Know Your Rights. An edit restarts with shots of fans stage side during the final parts of Clampdown with Joe’s adlibs. Both Clash City Rockers and Brand New Cadillac though are complete.

A widely circulating video of 8 mainly complete songs (see bold in set list and details in Gig section below) comes from the same cable TV rushes but with no time code and fully synchronised sound. It circulates in various DVD forms with different qualities of sound including one from Gerald Mann who has dubbed successfully the audience recording onto the video. They all though emanate from a VCD copy which has VHS copy quality video but the best sound. The VCD sound is better than the other source DVD sound and has decent clarity and range.

Unfortunately the master video source remains uncirculated and the VCD probably comes from the same source as the Stereovision Turin 1980 VCD, the best source still sadly too for this footage.
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Re: Missing Asbury Park footage

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Heston wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 3:43pm
From BMC...

A New York cable TV station filmed the gig on the 30th and interviewed fans outside the venue earlier in the day.

A little circulating DVD has a number of unedited interviews with Mick, Paul, Kosmo and Don at Electric Ladyland in November/December 1981. Baker makes a brief appearance at one point confirming the earlier date for this footage. The DVD also though includes a 10 minute section of interviews with fans and bemused passers by outside the Convention Center plus live footage of 2 complete songs and 2 short clips. Quality is of a VHS copy and mono sound.

The footage starts with a close up of the Convention Center sign and pans out to fans waiting outside. A number of fans were at the first gig the night before “they were excellent last night” The fans comments give the lie to the myth that The Clash’s political message went over the heads of their US fans. One fan with (some seriously dated Buggles sunglasses!) responded to the interviewer with “they made me wake up to a lot things that are happening in the world..for instance revolutions, nuclear arms race, individual rights, expressing your individuality” Someone behind adds “Goddamn human rights violations in South America!”

This group held up a ghetto blaster playing Sean Flynn and were they said definitely not Springsteen fans! Some bemused tourists were interviewed including a little boy who said his bird likes the Clash!

Another group of fans said they had been waiting outside for tickets since 10am that morning. One fan who was at Bonds says it was “our anniversary today one year ago we got chased away by the Police”. Another says “Old stuff was really punk but got their own style now, can’t classify them” Another “Political?” “Yeah!” in unison. Do you follow their political beliefs “Left wing. Yeah!” They were upset by Topper’s departure but one was not aware of the band’s 1st album sleeve joke at Terry’s expense saying; “they now got Tory Crimes the original drummer”!

The footage with time code now cuts to a 30 second clip of Joe at the end of Know Your Rights. An edit restarts with shots of fans stage side during the final parts of Clampdown with Joe’s adlibs. Both Clash City Rockers and Brand New Cadillac though are complete.

A widely circulating video of 8 mainly complete songs (see bold in set list and details in Gig section below) comes from the same cable TV rushes but with no time code and fully synchronised sound. It circulates in various DVD forms with different qualities of sound including one from Gerald Mann who has dubbed successfully the audience recording onto the video. They all though emanate from a VCD copy which has VHS copy quality video but the best sound. The VCD sound is better than the other source DVD sound and has decent clarity and range.

Unfortunately the master video source remains uncirculated and the VCD probably comes from the same source as the Stereovision Turin 1980 VCD, the best source still sadly too for this footage.
That's a very thorough description of the footage. I'm surprised it's not in general circulation.

It kind of reminds me of the Turin footage they mention in that BMC had like 8 songs listed and that's what was on the commonly share bootlegs, and then randomly Tommy Gun (not one of the 8) shows up on youtube. Well, I guess there is/was more footage.
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Re: Missing Asbury Park footage

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Heston wrote:
07 Feb 2023, 3:43pm
From BMC...

A New York cable TV station filmed the gig on the 30th and interviewed fans outside the venue earlier in the day.

A little circulating DVD has a number of unedited interviews with Mick, Paul, Kosmo and Don at Electric Ladyland in November/December 1981.
Hum i think i already watch this before
in crappy quality

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