Clash Outtakes: What we got vs. need

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Re: Clash Outtakes: What we got vs. need

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gkbill wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 3:03pm
Hello,

I don't know if this is the best thread for this, but does anyone know if a studio ska/more rock version of Bankrobber exists? From what I've learned in reading some stuff somewhere, Bankrobber may have started more rock/ska-ish and morphed into a more dub/reggae track.

Here's my reference point:



Does a studio version more like the above exist?
No studio version just that live version.
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Re: Clash Outtakes: What we got vs. need

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Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 3:07pm
gkbill wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 3:03pm
Hello,

I don't know if this is the best thread for this, but does anyone know if a studio ska/more rock version of Bankrobber exists? From what I've learned in reading some stuff somewhere, Bankrobber may have started more rock/ska-ish and morphed into a more dub/reggae track.

Here's my reference point:



Does a studio version more like the above exist?
No studio version just that live version.
That soundboard is probably the best we will ever get too unless a superior boot from January 1980 exists. They pretty much flipped a switch on playing it live after doing the studio recording.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: Clash Outtakes: What we got vs. need

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matedog wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 5:29pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 3:07pm
gkbill wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 3:03pm
Hello,

I don't know if this is the best thread for this, but does anyone know if a studio ska/more rock version of Bankrobber exists? From what I've learned in reading some stuff somewhere, Bankrobber may have started more rock/ska-ish and morphed into a more dub/reggae track.

Here's my reference point:



Does a studio version more like the above exist?
No studio version just that live version.
That soundboard is probably the best we will ever get too unless a superior boot from January 1980 exists. They pretty much flipped a switch on playing it live after doing the studio recording.
Hello,

Damn. I thought maybe as they were writing/learning/practicing someone might have taped it. Thanks for the information, Marky and Matedog.

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Re: Clash Outtakes: What we got vs. need

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Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 2:53pm
Anybody got this 7" bootleg? It claims to have a studio outtake of " City of the Dead".
Anybody?
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Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 6:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 2:53pm
Anybody got this 7" bootleg? It claims to have a studio outtake of " City of the Dead".
Anybody?
I knew I didn't have the actual 7" but I checked all my Clash digital stuff, no luck, sorry.

Love to hear it if anyone knows where to find it.
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Sparky wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:04pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 6:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 2:53pm
Anybody got this 7" bootleg? It claims to have a studio outtake of " City of the Dead".
Anybody?
I knew I didn't have the actual 7" but I checked all my Clash digital stuff, no luck, sorry.

Love to hear it if anyone knows where to find it.
There's one for sale on Discogs. But I'm loathe to buy only to find out it's the studio version. It seems strange that with all the bootlegs I've had over the years an outtake of "City of the Dead" has never shown up.
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Re: Clash Outtakes: What we got vs. need

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Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:08pm
Sparky wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:04pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 6:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 2:53pm
Anybody got this 7" bootleg? It claims to have a studio outtake of " City of the Dead".
Anybody?
I knew I didn't have the actual 7" but I checked all my Clash digital stuff, no luck, sorry.

Love to hear it if anyone knows where to find it.
There's one for sale on Discogs. But I'm loathe to buy only to find out it's the studio version. It seems strange that with all the bootlegs I've had over the years an outtake of "City of the Dead" has never shown up.
Definitely seems unlikely that it is an outtake.

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laxman wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:08pm
Sparky wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:04pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 6:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 2:53pm
Anybody got this 7" bootleg? It claims to have a studio outtake of " City of the Dead".
Anybody?
I knew I didn't have the actual 7" but I checked all my Clash digital stuff, no luck, sorry.

Love to hear it if anyone knows where to find it.
There's one for sale on Discogs. But I'm loathe to buy only to find out it's the studio version. It seems strange that with all the bootlegs I've had over the years an outtake of "City of the Dead" has never shown up.
Definitely seems unlikely that it is an outtake.
I agree. Especially since it’s paired with other b-sides. I suspect they are conflating “b-side” with “outtake.”
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:54pm
laxman wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:08pm
Sparky wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:04pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 6:41pm


Anybody?
I knew I didn't have the actual 7" but I checked all my Clash digital stuff, no luck, sorry.

Love to hear it if anyone knows where to find it.
There's one for sale on Discogs. But I'm loathe to buy only to find out it's the studio version. It seems strange that with all the bootlegs I've had over the years an outtake of "City of the Dead" has never shown up.
Definitely seems unlikely that it is an outtake.
I agree. Especially since it’s paired with other b-sides. I suspect they are conflating “b-side” with “outtake.”
Think you are correct. . Don't hold out much hope of it being an outtake.
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Marky Dread wrote:
13 Feb 2022, 6:42am
matedog wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:54pm
laxman wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:08pm
Sparky wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:04pm


I knew I didn't have the actual 7" but I checked all my Clash digital stuff, no luck, sorry.

Love to hear it if anyone knows where to find it.
There's one for sale on Discogs. But I'm loathe to buy only to find out it's the studio version. It seems strange that with all the bootlegs I've had over the years an outtake of "City of the Dead" has never shown up.
Definitely seems unlikely that it is an outtake.
I agree. Especially since it’s paired with other b-sides. I suspect they are conflating “b-side” with “outtake.”
Think you are correct. . Don't hold out much hope of it being an outtake.
Yeah, I’m sure if a genuine outtake version existed it would have been recirculated by now.
Bootleggers often misnamed track titles or descriptions, of course, deliberately or otherwise. I reckon it’s just the regular b-side which might have appealed to fans who hadn’t got the single.
That ‘DOA’ set from years ago did a superb job rounding up rarities from vinyl bootlegs. It could be that this EP slipped through the net at the time, but I reckon the DOA team would have had access to a copy.
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JohnS wrote:
13 Feb 2022, 10:04am
Marky Dread wrote:
13 Feb 2022, 6:42am
matedog wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:54pm
laxman wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:08pm


There's one for sale on Discogs. But I'm loathe to buy only to find out it's the studio version. It seems strange that with all the bootlegs I've had over the years an outtake of "City of the Dead" has never shown up.
Definitely seems unlikely that it is an outtake.
I agree. Especially since it’s paired with other b-sides. I suspect they are conflating “b-side” with “outtake.”
Think you are correct. . Don't hold out much hope of it being an outtake.
Yeah, I’m sure if a genuine outtake version existed it would have been recirculated by now.
Bootleggers often misnamed track titles or descriptions, of course, deliberately or otherwise. I reckon it’s just the regular b-side which might have appealed to fans who hadn’t got the single.
That ‘DOA’ set from years ago did a superb job rounding up rarities from vinyl bootlegs. It could be that this EP slipped through the net at the time, but I reckon the DOA team would have had access to a copy.
Yeah that's my thoughts as well mate. I've got the D.O.A. boot and others with those tracks. It's just a "what if".
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Marky Dread wrote:
13 Feb 2022, 10:26am


Yeah that's my thoughts as well mate. I've got the D.O.A. boot and others with those tracks. It's just a "what if".
I agree, it’d be good to get it confirmed if someone actually has a copy.
Even better if it turns out to be a genuine outtake discovery
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Marky Dread wrote:
13 Feb 2022, 6:42am
matedog wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:54pm
laxman wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:46pm
Marky Dread wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:08pm
Sparky wrote:
12 Feb 2022, 7:04pm


I knew I didn't have the actual 7" but I checked all my Clash digital stuff, no luck, sorry.

Love to hear it if anyone knows where to find it.
There's one for sale on Discogs. But I'm loathe to buy only to find out it's the studio version. It seems strange that with all the bootlegs I've had over the years an outtake of "City of the Dead" has never shown up.
Definitely seems unlikely that it is an outtake.
I agree. Especially since it’s paired with other b-sides. I suspect they are conflating “b-side” with “outtake.”
Think you are correct. . Don't hold out much hope of it being an outtake.
Yeah, i've been wrong on this stuff before, but I think our assumptions are probably right on this one.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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JohnS wrote:
13 Feb 2022, 11:17am
Marky Dread wrote:
13 Feb 2022, 10:26am


Yeah that's my thoughts as well mate. I've got the D.O.A. boot and others with those tracks. It's just a "what if".
I agree, it’d be good to get it confirmed if someone actually has a copy.
Even better if it turns out to be a genuine outtake discovery
Well I've got a copy now and can confirm yep just the B-sides. D.O.A. even has the picture sleeve shown on it's inner which made me think it strange. Still mystery solved. And Marky one arm and a leg down.😕
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Marky Dread wrote:
25 Feb 2022, 9:14pm
Well I've got a copy now and can confirm yep just the B-sides. D.O.A. even has the picture sleeve shown on it's inner which made me think it strange. Still mystery solved. And Marky one arm and a leg down.😕
Sorry you 'invested' in vain Marky. At least you know about the mystery track descriptions being false. A noble use of your funds.
Hope you can grow another arm and a leg... !
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