Rationalising Sandinista!
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Silent Majority
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Re: Rationalising Sandinista!
There's an art to song ordering. I think the overwhelming feeling of the album could have been lessened if someone with the training of mix tapes an playlists had been behind the wheel there.
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Re: Rationalising Sandinista!
I honestly feel like it's perfect for the MP3 age, because everyone can make their own playlist.Silent Majority wrote:There's an art to song ordering. I think the overwhelming feeling of the album could have been lessened if someone with the training of mix tapes an playlists had been behind the wheel there.
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Re: Rationalising Sandinista!
MP3's and playlists have ruined listening because nobody is appreciating the artist anymore. /simon reynoldsWolter wrote:I honestly feel like it's perfect for the MP3 age, because everyone can make their own playlist.Silent Majority wrote:There's an art to song ordering. I think the overwhelming feeling of the album could have been lessened if someone with the training of mix tapes an playlists had been behind the wheel there.
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Yeah, inevitably. It's kinda great that we've all got our own Sandinista!Wolter wrote:I honestly feel like it's perfect for the MP3 age, because everyone can make their own playlist.Silent Majority wrote:There's an art to song ordering. I think the overwhelming feeling of the album could have been lessened if someone with the training of mix tapes an playlists had been behind the wheel there.
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drowninghere
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I've always thought that Clash on Broadway and the other compilations were a monumental screw up in the way they treated Sandinista and hence the Clash's career arc - Up in Heaven, One More Time and Charlie Don't Surf should have been repeatedly held out as the classics of that era (and put on virtually every comp along with Mag 7, Somebody and POMB). Instead, not one of them even sniff Story of Clash, COB (3 CDs!) or Essential Clash - instead, we get Stop the World, Ivan, The Leader, The Call-Up, Live Lightning Strikes - not to mention practically every bloody song from 1977.Dirty Harry wrote:I find it weird how its never even been on one of the many compilations, It never even made it onto 'Clash on Broadway'IkarisOne wrote:How anyone can make a Sandinista comp without Up in Heaven - one of a tiny handful of real, actual, bonafide Clash songs on hand- in favor on some wanked-off pile of dumbfuck, pseudo-ethnic twaddle (name it) will forever be a mystery to me.
Great lyrics definetly one of my fave ever Clash songs would loved to have heard it live.
While I'm at - Jimmy Jazz over Spanish Bombs, Groovy Times over Gates of the West - ugh.
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All four essential for me. Agree with your comment on the S! tracks.drowninghere wrote:I've always thought that Clash on Broadway and the other compilations were a monumental screw up in the way they treated Sandinista and hence the Clash's career arc - Up in Heaven, One More Time and Charlie Don't Surf should have been repeatedly held out as the classics of that era (and put on virtually every comp along with Mag 7, Somebody and POMB). Instead, not one of them even sniff Story of Clash, COB (3 CDs!) or Essential Clash - instead, we get Stop the World, Ivan, The Leader, The Call-Up, Live Lightning Strikes - not to mention practically every bloody song from 1977.Dirty Harry wrote:I find it weird how its never even been on one of the many compilations, It never even made it onto 'Clash on Broadway'IkarisOne wrote:How anyone can make a Sandinista comp without Up in Heaven - one of a tiny handful of real, actual, bonafide Clash songs on hand- in favor on some wanked-off pile of dumbfuck, pseudo-ethnic twaddle (name it) will forever be a mystery to me.
Great lyrics definetly one of my fave ever Clash songs would loved to have heard it live.
While I'm at - Jimmy Jazz over Spanish Bombs, Groovy Times over Gates of the West - ugh.
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Up in Heaven is the I Heard Her Call My Name of Sandinista. In many ways, it's possibly the greatest no-fooling-around (your Sister Rays and Equalizers) thing about the album, probably one of the band's most unappreciated gems, and also both have a lot of feedback.
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My Sandinista!:
1. The Magnificent Seven
2. Hitsville U.K. (!)
3. Junco Partner
4. Ivan Meets G.I. Joe
5. The Crooked Beat
6. Somebody Got Murdered
7. Up In Heaven (Not Only Here)
8. Corner Soul
9. If Music Could Talk
10. The Sound Of Sinners
11. Police On My Back
12. The Call Up
13. Washington Bullets
14. Charlie Don't Surf
(Not necessarily in this order)
1. The Magnificent Seven
2. Hitsville U.K. (!)
3. Junco Partner
4. Ivan Meets G.I. Joe
5. The Crooked Beat
6. Somebody Got Murdered
7. Up In Heaven (Not Only Here)
8. Corner Soul
9. If Music Could Talk
10. The Sound Of Sinners
11. Police On My Back
12. The Call Up
13. Washington Bullets
14. Charlie Don't Surf
(Not necessarily in this order)
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I personally pushed for it to be included on COB when Mick gave me the provisional track list and asked what I thought was missing. I suggested Up in Heaven, Know Your Rights and All the Young Punks. Apparently Joe specifically nixed Know Your Rights. Mick hemmed and hawed about Up in Heaven. My only guess is that he didn't want to push for a song he sang lead on, unless it had some publishing issue with the Phil Ochs quote. I couldn't believe they left it off.Dirty Harry wrote:I find it weird how its never even been on one of the many compilations, It never even made it onto 'Clash on Broadway'IkarisOne wrote:How anyone can make a Sandinista comp without Up in Heaven - one of a tiny handful of real, actual, bonafide Clash songs on hand- in favor on some wanked-off pile of dumbfuck, pseudo-ethnic twaddle (name it) will forever be a mystery to me.
Great lyrics definetly one of my fave ever Clash songs would loved to have heard it live.
Edit: Reading some of the posts above, it's true that Sandinista was poorly represented on COB. One More Time and Charlie Don't Surf are also musts. I think I also mentioned Charlie at the time and was surprised it wasn't there.
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And yet they put Jimmy Jazz, Stop the World and Ivan Meets GI Joe on an Essential set. Moral of the story- we're all masochists.TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:I personally pushed for it to be included on COB when Mick gave me the provisional track list and asked what I thought was missing. I suggested Up in Heaven, Know Your Rights and All the Young Punks. Apparently Joe specifically nixed Know Your Rights. Mick hemmed and hawed about Up in Heaven. My only guess is that he didn't want to push for a song he sang lead on, unless it had some publishing issue with the Phil Ochs quote. I couldn't believe they left it off.Dirty Harry wrote:I find it weird how its never even been on one of the many compilations, It never even made it onto 'Clash on Broadway'IkarisOne wrote:How anyone can make a Sandinista comp without Up in Heaven - one of a tiny handful of real, actual, bonafide Clash songs on hand- in favor on some wanked-off pile of dumbfuck, pseudo-ethnic twaddle (name it) will forever be a mystery to me.
Great lyrics definetly one of my fave ever Clash songs would loved to have heard it live.
Edit: Reading some of the posts above, it's true that Sandinista was poorly represented on COB. One More Time and Charlie Don't Surf are also musts. I think I also mentioned Charlie at the time and was surprised it wasn't there.
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Any Sandinista tracklist without Something About England is a crime against humanity.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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I think it'd be more fun to do a thread about which songs we should kill than which songs we should keep.
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Or respected gentlemen.Heston wrote:Any Sandinista tracklist without Something About England is a crime against humanity.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
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Or maybe a worst of The Clash EP.Kaleb wrote:I think it'd be more fun to do a thread about which songs we should kill than which songs we should keep.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
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I really like Jimmy Jazz.