You know what, I really think you have to experience our weather system for a few years to appreciate that song. I can see why it mightn't resonate in California. My point stands though, morose songs can be fucking great.matedog wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:16pmThings happen in Straight to Hell. Some things happen (to a lesser degree) in TIE. Fucking nothing happens on BSSHeston wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:14pmWell yeah, maybe I'm a sucker for mournful ballads. Saying that, using your logic, Straight To Hell should have been a fast punk number.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:06pmRIght, which is the usual defence of that crappy Verve song. Intention is acknowledged, but that doesn't make me want to listen to either of them. Sometimes you just bundle up your misery, shove it inside your being, and don't sing it in a way that makes people contemptuous.
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I think Straight To Hell would have "grinded" with the Cut the Crap drum machine, the biggest achilles heel of the record.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:18pmHa! Point taken. But STH doesn't plod; it has a groove. Ear of the beholder and all that, but TIE grinds.Heston wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:14pmWell yeah, maybe I'm a sucker for mournful ballads. Saying that, using your logic, Straight To Hell should have been a fast punk number.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:06pmRIght, which is the usual defence of that crappy Verve song. Intention is acknowledged, but that doesn't make me want to listen to either of them. Sometimes you just bundle up your misery, shove it inside your being, and don't sing it in a way that makes people contemptuous.
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That's quite possible. And maybe with Topper's or Pete's touch some of my dislike would be remedied. But that's not what we got.Heston wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:22pmI think Straight To Hell would have "grinded" with the Cut the Crap drum machine, the biggest achilles heel of the record.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:18pmHa! Point taken. But STH doesn't plod; it has a groove. Ear of the beholder and all that, but TIE grinds.Heston wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:14pmWell yeah, maybe I'm a sucker for mournful ballads. Saying that, using your logic, Straight To Hell should have been a fast punk number.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:06pmRIght, which is the usual defence of that crappy Verve song. Intention is acknowledged, but that doesn't make me want to listen to either of them. Sometimes you just bundle up your misery, shove it inside your being, and don't sing it in a way that makes people contemptuous.
Also, and this is a separate issue, it's toss-up for me whether the Achilles' heel of the album is the drum programming or those fucking soccer chant choruses. 1a and 1b, anyway.
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Yes, I nearly put in brackets (along with the chanted choruses).Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:30pmThat's quite possible. And maybe with Topper's or Pete's touch some of my dislike would be remedied. But that's not what we got.Heston wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:22pmI think Straight To Hell would have "grinded" with the Cut the Crap drum machine, the biggest achilles heel of the record.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:18pmHa! Point taken. But STH doesn't plod; it has a groove. Ear of the beholder and all that, but TIE grinds.Heston wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:14pmWell yeah, maybe I'm a sucker for mournful ballads. Saying that, using your logic, Straight To Hell should have been a fast punk number.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:06pm
RIght, which is the usual defence of that crappy Verve song. Intention is acknowledged, but that doesn't make me want to listen to either of them. Sometimes you just bundle up your misery, shove it inside your being, and don't sing it in a way that makes people contemptuous.
Also, and this is a separate issue, it's toss-up for me whether the Achilles' heel of the album is the drum programming or those fucking soccer chant choruses. 1a and 1b, anyway.
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Yes, but to be fair I was making a comment about the merging of Czech Song and TIE, negating the shitty drum machine.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:30pmAnd maybe with Topper's or Pete's touch some of my dislike would be remedied. But that's not what we got.
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Fair enough. I was hung up on the defences of the proper release. Was it Jon Savage who called it the last great punk single? Jesus Christ on a cracker.Heston wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:40pmYes, but to be fair I was making a comment about the merging of Czech Song and TIE, negating the shitty drum machine.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 7:30pmAnd maybe with Topper's or Pete's touch some of my dislike would be remedied. But that's not what we got.
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The first place this single's release was advertised on, was the BBC's 'Ceefax'
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I like the song well enough. The fold out sleeve on the other hand...
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Maybe as a double A-side with Fingerpoppin'.
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Those two at the back have huge heads compared to Joe.
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Yeah but Joe had the larger ego.
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Honestly, I know it wasn’t, but this photo looks like a bad photoshop/composite.
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Paul looks like a cat whose owner has just sneezed.
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It’s not just him, though. None of them really look like they’re in the same room, which is probably representative of how they all related to each other then.101Walterton wrote: ↑20 Jun 2020, 5:58pmJoe was a small guy.
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