The internetSilent Majority wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 7:51pmWhy would someone do that?Heston wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 7:43pmI think that's an out of focus monitor in front of them. But it's quite possible it's fake.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 6:54pmMaybe the picture is a fake. Where's the rest of Joe's mike stand? Paul's feet have disappeared.
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There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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Based on this photo, the other one could be from early '82. As I mentioned to matedog, that photo is a tough one to date.Stefano1972 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2023, 10:23amVery nice unseen photo, I think it was taken during the Pacific Tour at the beginning of the 1982. Joe and Paul they have almost the same airstyle in this photo taken in Australia at the end of Febraury 1982
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If genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.
In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
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Joe and Mick look very similar to this pic. Mick maybe wearing the same jacket.
Joe with that "1st May" "Take a Holiday" message.
Joe with that "1st May" "Take a Holiday" message.
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For my point of view that photo was taken around the same period of the photosession for the Combat Rock cover. Teeths of Joe can explain more but he has the microphone…
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Good eye on the pin. I mentioned on fb that topper has a china cymbal on the left of the photo. He has one on his kit in the Fridays footage but not in some of the photos from the Asia 82 tour.Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 1:37amIf genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.
In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
I thought this might be rehearsal/sound check footage from Fridays but Paul’s hair still doesn’t match. All signs point to 1980 for new, just coordinating Joe and Paul’s hair seems to be the key.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Yeah, good detective work from Marky. Pinpointing when Joe and Paul were cropped could be the key. Is this new pic before or after Fridays?matedog wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 10:02amGood eye on the pin. I mentioned on fb that topper has a china cymbal on the left of the photo. He has one on his kit in the Fridays footage but not in some of the photos from the Asia 82 tour.Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 1:37amIf genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.
In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
I thought this might be rehearsal/sound check footage from Fridays but Paul’s hair still doesn’t match. All signs point to 1980 for new, just coordinating Joe and Paul’s hair seems to be the key.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board
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Well it might be Thursday.Heston wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 10:12amYeah, good detective work from Marky. Pinpointing when Joe and Paul were cropped could be the key. Is this new pic before or after Fridays?matedog wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 10:02amGood eye on the pin. I mentioned on fb that topper has a china cymbal on the left of the photo. He has one on his kit in the Fridays footage but not in some of the photos from the Asia 82 tour.Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 1:37amIf genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.
In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
I thought this might be rehearsal/sound check footage from Fridays but Paul’s hair still doesn’t match. All signs point to 1980 for new, just coordinating Joe and Paul’s hair seems to be the key.
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I'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
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Looks very staged to me. Made to look like they are playing live.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 2:38pmI'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
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What show is this picture from? The "Take a Holiday" message I think was only on his guitar on Fridays and presumably the adjacent Roxy show. Here's the March 9 show in Boston:Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 1:55amJoe and Mick look very similar to this pic. Mick maybe wearing the same jacket.
Joe with that "1st May" "Take a Holiday" message.
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Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 10:28amWell it might be Thursday.Heston wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 10:12amYeah, good detective work from Marky. Pinpointing when Joe and Paul were cropped could be the key. Is this new pic before or after Fridays?matedog wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 10:02amGood eye on the pin. I mentioned on fb that topper has a china cymbal on the left of the photo. He has one on his kit in the Fridays footage but not in some of the photos from the Asia 82 tour.Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 1:37amIf genuine I still think I'm sticking with 1980. When you blow the picture up it's more apparent to me that Joe has a buzz cut and his hair isn't slicked back. Paul is wearing that little pin badge with the wings which can be seen a lot on his pinstripe that he wore around 1980. Mick's hair looks very similar to the Friday's footage.
In the photo Stefano posted Joe has slightly longer sideburns and looks more gaunt in the face.
I thought this might be rehearsal/sound check footage from Fridays but Paul’s hair still doesn’t match. All signs point to 1980 for new, just coordinating Joe and Paul’s hair seems to be the key.
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Have they ever done staged photos of them pretending to play live? Other than those like 1976 rehearsal pics (which were probably them actually playing).Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 3:46pmLooks very staged to me. Made to look like they are playing live.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 2:38pmI'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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German magazine Bravo had the Sex Pistols stage a live pic. Also this one below of The Clash which I think is also staged.matedog wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 5:56pmHave they ever done staged photos of them pretending to play live? Other than those like 1976 rehearsal pics (which were probably them actually playing).Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 3:46pmLooks very staged to me. Made to look like they are playing live.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 2:38pmI'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
Bravo was a poster magazine. Here's the Pistols one for what it's worth
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That Clash one is assuredly photo-edited. It's a combo of other pics.Marky Dread wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 6:17pmGerman magazine Bravo had the Sex Pistols stage a live pic. Also this one below of The Clash which I think is also staged.matedog wrote: ↑07 Mar 2023, 5:56pmHave they ever done staged photos of them pretending to play live? Other than those like 1976 rehearsal pics (which were probably them actually playing).Marky Dread wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 3:46pmLooks very staged to me. Made to look like they are playing live.BR16ADE_R055E wrote: ↑04 Mar 2023, 2:38pmI'm back to thinking that it's from 1980. Maybe Joe and Paul didn't get haircuts at the same time. Yes, Mick's hair does look like it does on Fridays. It also doesn't look staged since Topper isn't paying attention to the camera.
Bravo was a poster magazine. Here's the Pistols one for what it's worth
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